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biondino
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03-09-2007, 09:53 AM
Post subject: How often?
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4-of-a-Kind
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This is an experimental thread of a sort. All I want you to do is post a percentage answer x 3, no comment, no discussion, to the question below. I also want you to work out your answer before you read the rest of the thread, so that you're not influenced by that of others.
You have position on a $50NL/$100NL 6max table vs an unknown. You raise pre-flop and he calls. The flop has two of a suit on it. He check calls your 4/5 pot bet. Turn is raggy; again he check calls your 3/4 pot bet. River is a third of that suit (board is unpaired) and the villain bets:
a) 1/3 pot
b) 2/3 pot
c) all-in
How often, in percentage terms, does he have a made flush (any flush beats you in this example) in each case?
Please give your answers to a, b and c and then, once we've got 25 or so replies, I'll take an average. Remember, please decide on your answer before checking out what cocco_bill said
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Genitruc
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a) 50%
b) 70%
c) 80%
edit : kind of impossible to answer without reads, but oh well.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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Hornsta9
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a) 40%
b) 60%
c) 20%
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Muzzard
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This is highly dependent on reads and stack sizes!
A) 40%
B) 70%
C) 80% - he is obv a check calling donk! I HIT A FLUSSSSH!!!
Check calling down and then betting out when a flush hits, fairly obv a flush high % of time, those DONKS!
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bode
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a) 50%
b) 80%
c) 50%
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Hornsta9
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Hornsta9
c) 20% 
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I obviously give the Donks too much credit! DOH!!!!!
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Miffed22001
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1. 40% (edited from 30%) 30% biatch
2. 75%
3. 65%
P.S wheres coco's post?
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XTR1000
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a) 40%
b) 75%
c) 60%
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biondino
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
P.S wheres coco's post?
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He hasn't made one yet but simply by asking that I know you've been cheating
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by biondino
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Originally Posted by Miffed22001
P.S wheres coco's post?
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He hasn't made one yet but simply by asking that I know you've been cheating 
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hmmm, but my answers are diff from most others, although i admit i changed the first!
Edit: note P.S post script! doh!
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IowaSkinsFan
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Enough to the point where you're going to have to fold a lot to everyone of them except the 1/3rd pot bet.
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c-luvin
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40, 80, 81
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cadmunkey
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a) 60 - I call here tho if I have a decent hand with showdown value
b) 80
c) 90
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SmackinYaUp
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Why no discussion?
This is very inaccurate without reads:
50%
66%
85%
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biondino
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You don't have reads, he's unknown. The problem is that unless you're playing a game with mostly regs, most of your opponents are unknown. I made this choice intentionally because it happens so often.
Thanks to everyone who's replied so far - a few more over the weekend and I'll do the maths, and THEN we can have the discussion
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gabe
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not enough to fold
not enough to fold
not enough to fold
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