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Old 02-20-2008, 01:56 PM     Post subject: How do you play these? #1 (permalink)  
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Pretty new to taking poker seriously, not sure how I should have played these but im pretty sure it could have been done a lot better. Any comments welcome.

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SB ($6.95)
BB ($7.30)
UTG ($13.10)
MP ($9)
CO ($9.25)
Hero ($9.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 2.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.4, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds.

Flop: ($0.95) 9, 9, J (2 players)
CO bets $0.4, Hero raises to $1.6, CO calls $1.20.

Turn: ($4.15) 3 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

River: ($4.15) T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $3, CO calls $3.

Final Pot: $10.15 - They had QQ.


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UTG ($8.05)
MP ($6.40)
CO ($13.20)
Button ($10)
SB ($8.85)
Hero ($13.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with , .
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, Button calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.55) , , (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks, Button bets $0.4, Hero calls $0.40, UTG folds, MP calls $0.40, CO folds.

Turn: ($1.75) (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $1.4, Hero calls $1.40, MP folds.

River: ($4.55) (2 players)
Hero bets $2.55, Button raises to $8.1, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $9.65
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Old 02-20-2008, 05:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Hand #1: Don't bother bluffing at micro stakes. Just set it or forget it when it comes to low PPs. Your line does look very bluffy FWIW. Your flop raise is a good size, but once you check the turn behind he knows you don't have shit.

Hand #2: I personally lead out on the flop, c/c the flop is fine too. Just c/f the turn as played, you have the bad end of a 4 card straight and you're OOP so it'll be really hard to get paid off if you hit your flush.


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So would you fire on the turn or just give it up once he calls the raise on the flop in hand 1.

Looking at hand 2 again I can see that I should have folded on the tuen,
 
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Hand 1- quit after flop raise.

Hand 2- Don't bother firing on the river, the deuce changed nothing.. just check/call with the low end there.

I'd lead flop also...
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 1. Just fold to flop bet, raise it if you have to but once he's called just give up.
2. Meh.. just c/c riv
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:11 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1- Fold flop. As played give up after raise.
Hand 2- leading flop is probably better, c/c is alright. Don't really mind the turn as played. (implied odds/we're ahead a bunch of the time). I guess C/C river.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:20 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 just check/jam or jam all, that's always the answer
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just check/jam or jam all, that's always the answer
this is golden advice. you get him off his entire range with a check/jam.
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Old 02-20-2008, 08:38 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 but seriously, check behind #1 on river, otherwise played fine.

#2 - bet flop, or as played c/r big. as played probably c/c river.
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just check/jam or jam all, that's always the answer
this is golden advice. you get him off his entire range with a check/jam.
You guys are taking the piss right?
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Old 02-20-2008, 09:30 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 I agree with fold on the flop

Hand 2. Get all da monies in on the flop, do it however you can. Also you can get all da monies in on da turn. Fold was bad on the river, just check/call a Potsized bet.
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Ok. I just realized I hate it when people tell me what I should be doing, but not why.

So a few questions:
1) Do you understand Bankroll management? Are you willing to demonstrate it by telling us how much money you have online at the site you're playing 10nl at?

2) Do you understand how much money he has to have in his stack, and how much you have to have in your stack to call .40 raise with 22? Do you understand what needs to occur on the flop in order to continue with 22?

Flush draws are powerful, Straight flush draws are more powerful, straight flush draws with an over are even more powerful. Do you know how many total outs you had? How about clean outs? Do you know how many outs you have to have in order to simply strive to get all the money in the middle reguardless of what your opponent has?
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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1. I have $220
2. Not exactly, like I said, pretty new to taking this seriously.
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 07:50 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Pretopic analysis: I cannot believe that someone wouldn't jump in here to help sil in the 8 hours I'm at work. *tsk tsk tsk*
1) Cool.
2) Ok, here's the deal. Both players have to have the same amount of money for you to go to the flop with a small pocket pair. The amount of money the opponent has to have? 10x the raise. So if he raises to $.40, you both need to have at least 4 dollars in your stack.

The only reason you are going to the flop, is to try to catch a set with 22. Catching a set happens 1 every 8.5 times, Assuming you're going to, every once in a while, have your set get cracked, we're adding 1.5 more times to the amount he has to have in order to make your sethunting ALWAYS profitable.

Which means, not only does he need to have $4 more dollars in his stack after a .40 raise, we need to figgure out a way to get that $4 into the pot. Which is up to you. But for small pocket pairs, no set, no bet. In fact for small pocket pairs no set, no continue.

Do you have any questions?
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 02-21-2008, 01:10 PM #15 (permalink)  
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No that makes sense, thanks mate.
 
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