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04-01-2004, 08:24 PM
Post subject: How do you beat good players
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Full House
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Even though i am not at the stage of atempting to beat good players, but i was wondering if everyone is playing tight/agressive can the game be beat?
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Fnord
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If you're predictable and not adapting to your opponents you're easy to beat. This is why top players at very competitive tables change gears often.
Too tight - Play more suited connectors to make a deceptivly better hand with small cards. Steal small pots. Play fewer hands with kicker problems. Get out of dodge when they represent a hand you can't beat.
Too loose - Tighten up.
Too aggressive - Back off the draws. Slow play, bait and trap. Let them steal small pots and get cocky, setting up a big score.
Too passive - Play more draws. Get out of dodge if they suddenly become aggressive.
Calls too often - Bet big hands into them. Don't bluff, semi-bluff less.
Folds too often - Bluff them, semi-bluff a lot and steal pots.
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!Luck
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Full House
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I would like to thank you again for all your advice. I was wondering how long have you been playing holdem for?
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Xianti
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I think Fnord INVENTED Hold'em.
And booooyyy, are we glad to have him.
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markweird
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Well, by definition you cant "beat good players" ...otherwise they wouldnt be good. However, solid players with a tight aggressive style can be beaten if you can get a fix on them, learn how they bet , when the bluff, what tells they have. Sometimes if they play too tight you can bluff them out of pots if the board pairs or a flush card hits on the turn, also if they are too aggressive wait till you get a strong hand and let them bet it for you then stick'em with a check raise if you know they will bet on the river. Often taking a guys stack of chips can throw off their game making them play according to how many chips they have and not according to what the cards are.....
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toekneechin
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the best way to 'beat' good players is to simply go all in preflop. That way it comes down to more or less a gamble (assuming you choose your hands you go all in with) and they don't get a chance to outplay you with a flop.
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I don't know if I'm qualified to answer on this thread but I think that one or two good players on a table of 10 is not gonna be a big problem if the rest of the table is fish. The problem is to play good players shorthanded, but then again, playing short handed is a problem for many players (regardless of the resistance) and I'm one of them. 
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by toekneechin
the best way to 'beat' good players is to simply go all in preflop. That way it comes down to more or less a gamble (assuming you choose your hands you go all in with) and they don't get a chance to outplay you with a flop.
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Only works if the blinds are big enough.
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