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Old 08-07-2007, 03:21 PM     Post subject: How can I be play Ax better? #1 (permalink)  
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Here are all my Ax hands:

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I'm most worried about my big Ax hands that aren't making a profit.
AJo/AJs is my biggest problem. I've read on the forums that a lot of people have difficulty playing AJ and people even openfold it UTG in FR.

How can I play better with AJ?
I've started to 3bet my Ax hands a lot more preflop now. But the stats I've posted probably contain a very high number of hands where I've just called preflop.

Should I be worried about my AQ and AK stats? My AQo profit went down from $1800 to $1200 today, so negative results could be down to some coinflips I lost where I should have won. I think AK will have very high variance, since I've got it allin preflop for full stacks a lot.

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Old 08-07-2007, 04:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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dont be so focused on AJ as u see u make that profit on ATo so that can be just too small sample or few beats.

obviously that AJ kicker is no good and after c-bet ur in dangerous situation. replay all ur AJ hands and try to figure yourself if ur kicker isdominated or if u push them too much if called or what is the problem. AJ is not hand u win too bigpots with, is what i think. seriously good to have position and have it suited.
Also do you call raises with it often ? that may be ur problem.

notice ur loosing big on ur Axo hands (x<9)
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 What's your 3betting frequency like with these hands? I've got similar stats and I'm wondering whether I'm not threebetting enough. I'm also trying to work out whether they're 3bet/fold type hands.
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 Don't play them pre and watch your opponents mess up because of it.

Other than that, dont ever play offsuit Ax, play suited ones and never play them to a single raise and no caller (most of the time)
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What's your 3betting frequency like with these hands? I've got similar stats and I'm wondering whether I'm not threebetting enough. I'm also trying to work out whether they're 3bet/fold type hands.
I don't know what my 3betting frequency is. I've started 3betting AJ and AT a lot more pf. I think it is working out.

With Ax, I will never (or rarely) just call a raise with it preflop.

When I'm playing Ax, it's because I'm the aggressor in the hand.

Looking at my stats, I play my low Axs a lot more than Ax. I didn't realize I gave my suited Ax's so much more respect.

With Axs, I will openraise (or raise when there are only limpers in front of me) a high percentage of the time in LP. I will open raise Axo in LP too, but not as much.

The only time I'm not the aggressor with Ax (o/s) is when I'm in the blinds and it is cheap/getting good implied odds to call.

Also, am I playing my AK and AQ badly? Surely they should should a profit. Or could this be due to variance?
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Don't play them pre and watch your opponents mess up because of it.

Other than that, dont ever play offsuit Ax, play suited ones and never play them to a single raise and no caller (most of the time)
Are we talking AJ-, or are we including AQo in this? AT/AJo to a single raise and no caller, is that a threebet or a muck for you? Ever a call?
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Why are you raising hands like A7o preflop 35% of the time? A2s 46%? Ugh. I would raise these hands less and dump them more.

then I would play AJo and A10s less aggressively and look to play a smaller pot with them. All it takes is to loose a couple big pots to AQ/AK with those hands to destroy your winrate with them, as you shouldn't be winning

Interesting that A10o is a winner while A10s is a loser, could just be statistics but perhaps try playing A10o and AJo similarly

Overall it looks like you are overvaluing suited A's too much, as your A10-AQo is posting a better winrate than your A10s-AQs. Too much flush chasing, or?
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Why are you raising hands like A7o preflop 35% of the time? A2s 46%? Ugh. I would raise these hands less and dump them more.

then I would play AJo and A10s less aggressively and look to play a smaller pot with them. All it takes is to loose a couple big pots to AQ/AK with those hands to destroy your winrate with them, as you shouldn't be winning

Interesting that A10o is a winner while A10s is a loser, could just be statistics but perhaps try playing A10o and AJo similarly

Overall it looks like you are overvaluing suited A's too much, as your A10-AQo is posting a better winrate than your A10s-AQs. Too much flush chasing, or?
because I'm a maniac? lol
In the future I'll raise less often with these hands.

But I just can't fold a hand as sweet as A2s when I'm on the BTN or CO and no one has raised before me.
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I'd raise A2s otb too, but its a really marginal hand without a lot of value. If the A hits, a lot of people fold. If it hits and they don't fold, you are easily dominated. That's why I don't like weak A's.
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 Sheesh, I raise A2s UTG in fullring. I make up for it by playing them well postflop. At least I think and hope so.

Seems to me that they're great hands to play from most anywhere. You just have to play them good. They're great for image and range merging. If you're losing big pots with them against AK or AQ then you're playing them poorly postflop, not preflop (assuming you respect raises).

If you guys don't raise Axs or low SCs UTG in 6max, then how are you getting 23/19 or higher stats? You 3bet garbage in LP all the time or something?
 
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