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12-05-2005, 10:33 PM Post subject: hold'em or fold'em...

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Villan is a 20/2 with 2.67agg

$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, December 04, 22:32:11 EDT 2005
Table Table 65811 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: MsDesigner ( $119.10 )
Seat 4: jsm621 ( $194.49 )
Seat 3: sed76 ( $134.14 )
Seat 6: BoratBigHram ( $104.85 )
Seat 5: CrapsPlaya7 ( $111.90 )
Seat 2: donaus05260 ( $51.60 )
sed76 posts small blind [$0.50].
jsm621 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to sed76 [ As 5s ]
CrapsPlaya7 folds.
BoratBigHram folds.
MsDesigner calls [$1].
donaus05260 folds.
sed76 calls [$0.50].
jsm621 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 2h, Js ]
sed76 checks.
jsm621 checks.
MsDesigner checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4s ]
sed76 bets [$2].
jsm621 folds.
MsDesigner raises [$8].
sed76 calls [$6].
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
sed76 bets [$10].
MsDesigner is all-In.
MsDesigner: 56
sed76....

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siknd

12-05-2005, 10:45 PM

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hard to tell with no flop action. too bad you bet the river into the raiser. i dont know. cant fear the nuts all day, i guess. i call.

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siknd

12-05-2005, 10:49 PM

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it just came to me. slowplayed set on the flop. 333.

'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '

Miffed22001

12-05-2005, 11:52 PM

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easy call
no way he has 56

WildBobAA

12-06-2005, 12:14 AM

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I don't think I can lay down 2nd nuts here. Some donks like to play the nuts like this but...if he does have 56, he's caught me with the one hand he's taking my stack with.

Sed

12-06-2005, 01:06 AM

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More info I failed to add:

He had be on the table for ~30 minutes and not shown any aggression at all. Limping a lot pre-flop and one interesting hand where he called down with second nuts.

All of his post-flop aggression rating was accumulated with and after this hand. But I cannot get PT to sort aggression by time of game...

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Cocco_Bill

12-06-2005, 01:14 AM

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call

DaHorror

12-13-2005, 08:18 PM

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Don't you want more money in on the turn? You have a bike and the nut flush draw - your hand is most likely the best with a good chance to improve yet again - but you don't want the board to pair or something.

Seems like you have to call here and win a nice pot against two-pair or trips. I doubt 56 is there though you pretty much have to pay it off I think...

Krieg1984

12-13-2005, 11:20 PM

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Sorry for the scrub question, but what does "20/2" mean?

I've seen this convention at other sites used to describe players and I'd like to know what it means.

Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."

Sed

12-14-2005, 12:05 AM

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plays 20% of hands, raises 2%

- sed

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biondino

12-14-2005, 01:07 PM

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So the only potential benefit here of revealing their hand is that you will see it as a double bluff, call and lose. Seems a bit of a risk, especially as you've shown strength and probably would only fold to the nuts in any case.

Having said that, the turn bet fits having 56 and wanting to push out the flush draw. This is a very tricky one.

Krieg1984

12-15-2005, 11:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sed

plays 20% of hands, raises 2%

- sed

Thanks.

Lukie: "Yo Fnord I was playing omaha earlier"
Lukie: "I got dealt quads"
Lukie: "but everyone folded to my raise "
Lukie: "I was going to pwn everyone"
Fnord: "Gotta slowplay them big hands man..."

Fnord

12-15-2005, 11:16 PM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Bet flop, re-raise turn.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBvge-c2_Xg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Xz8aLuD7Y

bigred

12-16-2005, 12:12 AM

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I would call this. However, I almost feel like the reason you posted this was because he actually had the nuts. However, I think this is a hand, esp in 6max, you can't get away from. I think he misplayed a set and needs to take his punishment.

LOL OPERATIONS

siknd

12-16-2005, 02:17 PM

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apparently, we are never going to get closure on this one, sed you sick bastard! (i cant sleep at nights wondering, 56 or 33?)

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Sed

12-16-2005, 05:34 PM

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no closure...

- sed

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siknd

12-16-2005, 08:39 PM

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lol. fine. looks like what really happened was he picked up a spade draw on the turn, made you fold to his cracked hand with the river bluff...and showed you. and you just wanted some validation for your fold!

'If you think a weakness can be turned into a strength, I hate to tell you this, but that's another weakness. '

Sed

12-17-2005, 12:56 AM

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Nah, he didn't show me anything... I did fold though but felt pretty weak about it so wanted to see what the consensus was.

- sed

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