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05-08-2008, 12:08 AM
Post subject: Gross River Spot vs Spewy Lagg
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Full House
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Villain is 31/21/6 after 150 hands and is quite aggro and spewy.
His line makes no sense. His river raise looks quite bluffy.
Thoughts?
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $231.70
Button: $696.05
Hero: $289.00
BB: $316.75
Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is SB with Q  T
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls.
Flop: 8  9 5  ($14, 2 players)
Hero bets $12, BB raises to $24, Hero calls.
Turn: Q  ($62, 2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.
River: Q ($62, 2 players)
Hero bets $40, BB raises to $178, Hero ??
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silu73
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Hmm the only hand that really makes sense is 67 or a slowplayed set but if he has been aggro he might do this with all sort of random hands as well. I can't see myself folding too often here.
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Fnord
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Hero is all-in.
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Deanglow
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This is a really dumb J10 a lot but also a bluff saying "no way he has a queen or better!" So call.
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EzDuzIt
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call. we only beat bluffs really but this is a bluff a lot.
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Galapogos
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Fold flop?
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Fold flop?
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4 outs to the nuts.
3 outs to a pair that figures to be g00t
backdoor flush draw
I ain't going away for 4:1 + Implied
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will641
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yeah im calling this all day given reads. when youre running good hell have something stupid, then when you run bad its like, oh ofc you have the nuts, why wouldnt you?
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Alexos
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god i can visualize him showing TJo as he scoops it
so gay
seriously i think this guy will even value bet a nine here on river if we check to him, might as well do that, what is he minraising anyways on flop that hes not betting turn with
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Galapogos
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
Fold flop?
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4 outs to the nuts.
3 outs to a pair that figures to be g00t
backdoor flush draw
I ain't going away for 4:1 + Implied |
Yeah but we're OOP against a spewtard so good luck getting to that BDFD easily. Plus, he has hit his overpair twice and still doesn't like it, and I don't think we should really look to it as an out since it completes the main straight draw out there.
I'd rather 3-bet or fold here if we're so sure he does this enough with trash/weak hands that our outs are all good enough. If we're in position I think a call is fine.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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His range here is almost entirely weighted towards pocket jokers, A, joker and bluffs. imo a guyn like this will almost always slow play jokers pre here, there's just too many hands you fold to a 3 bet. given his rnage you have to call, as at least 55% are bluffs (after all there are only 2 jokers in the deck.)
Also if he has that card with the bridge rules on it, we may actually be able to shove for value, however given the min raise on the flop it's unlikely.
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thizzSantaCruz
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call, prolly JT tho.
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