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mixchange
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09-24-2008, 12:49 PM
Post subject: Good time for C/Shove with overs 3bet pot?
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4-of-a-Kind
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($215.80)
UTG ($69.50)
MP ($275.80)
CO ($199.70)
Button ($66.30)
Hero (SB) ($184.35)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A , Q
2 folds, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, CO calls $18
Flop: ($50) 10, 6, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $27, Hero Shoves?
Villain 25/20 not particularly good, not a reg, not a donk OK
terrible flop to cbet, he calls like 80% of his range or raises
I haven't shown down any big bluffs good image
He has tons of PP here and prolly only calls JJ/QQ, maybe even folds JJ
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minSim
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Cmon you really think he folds JJ? Are you ever taking this line with AA?
I'd b/f and double barrel a decent amount or c/f flop.
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mixchange
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even if villain calls JJ and QQ I think we got value and made him fold the best hand way too often, and also got value from random garbage like 109s KQs etc. that are just playing around. In CO I think his range is huge here and he cant call much except what 12 combos unless he's slowplaying KK/AA which I doubt. I also think he 4bets QQ a decent % to discount.
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Da GOAT
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if i put him on that range id rather bet flop shove turn. cb 35 shove 120 into 120 turn
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minSim
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Originally Posted by mixchange
even if villain calls JJ and QQ I think we got value and made him fold the best hand way too often, and also got value from random garbage like 109s KQs etc. that are just playing around. In CO I think his range is huge here and he cant call much except what 12 combos unless he's slowplaying KK/AA which I doubt. I also think he 4bets QQ a decent % to discount.
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Compare your line with double barreling...I think that get's a lot more money out of him before he folds. I also think the two barrels combined have more FE than the flop c/r.
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gametight
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I like a check bomb here... as long as you are doing it with KK+ once in a while.
Id also like it much better if you had AK.
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mixchange
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problem with a double barrel is that he only calls when we're behind (for the most part) and he may make some goofy bets on the flop that he'd fold to a shove with a wide range of hands.
unless opponent has seen me take this line before i'd never do it with qq+
also since he's CO and has position on me his range is wider than normal and he is looking to steal from us if we check flop or if we bet flop check turn
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