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Good thing I'm playing NL50 because I have hudge leaks
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04-03-2009, 06:36 PM
Post subject: Good thing I'm playing NL50 because I have hudge leaks
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Hand 1: OK, so what am I supposed to make of this? No reads he sat down recently. UTG is a huge fish.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($49)
MP ($22.45)
Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($9.75)
SB ($50)
BB ($38.40)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , Q
UTG calls $0.50, MP bets $5, Hero ?
Hand 2: The guy is a donk, calls preflop raises and 3bets with nothing, gambools a lot
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (MP) ($50)
Button ($122.40)
SB ($50.70)
BB ($100.25)
UTG ($46.80)
Preflop: Hero is MP with A , Q
UTG calls $0.50, Hero bets $2.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $2
Flop: ($5.75) J , 8 , Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $44.30 (All-In), Hero ?
Hand 3: Another donk, the hand right before he fired two streets but I soulread him and caught a bluff. Does this influence our decision, or does him being a donk cancel it out?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($53)
BB ($50)
UTG ($45)
MP ($46.30)
Hero (CO) ($56.15)
Button ($50.25)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , K
2 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, 1 fold
Flop: ($3.50) Q , 4 , 3 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $3, SB calls $2.50
Turn: ($9.50) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $48.50 (All-In), Hero ?
Hand 4: Villain is a reg
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($124.90)
MP ($47.75)
Button ($74.75)
SB ($45.80)
Hero (BB) ($125.30)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q
1 fold, MP bets $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.50, MP calls $4
Flop: ($11.25) 10 , 6 , J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50
Turn: ($18.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $13, MP raises to $27.50, Hero?
Hand 5: Villain is another reg, I figured he wouldn't barrel me on that card, so when he bets he expects me to call, so it's for value so I fold.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
BB ($76.15)
UTG ($59.45)
Button ($53.55)
Hero (SB) ($111.50)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J , J
1 fold, Button bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB raises to $6.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $5
Flop: ($14.50) 5 , 6 , 10 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $10, Hero calls $10
Turn: ($34.50) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $20, Hero folds
Total pot: $34.50 | Rake: $1.65
Hand 6 I was planning on calling because the opener was a reg and would suspect a squeeze, but then the donk shoved and I was like wat.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($78.70)
SB ($123.40)
BB ($50)
UTG ($52.55)
MP ($37.55)
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q , Q
UTG bets $2, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG raises to $22, MP raises to $37.55 (All-In), Hero?
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STHollywood
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1) this is incredibly weird. I would think a fish would only do this with AA KK and his half stack leads me to believe that is exactly what he is.
2)ugh!...call? I mean wtf is his range? All two pairs? Air? 10-9? I kinda think its a fold, but in the moment I would call and lose.
3)I think the fact you caught him in a bluff before makes this more likely to be legit. Q7? 56? But, even so how is your equity with TP second kicker and a flush draw? It's gotta be pretty good.
4) As a rule of thumb @ 50nl this line is 2 pair or better.
5)Why did you c/c instead of b/f? Did you want him to c-bet his misses? I mean what was your plan here? What is his 3 bet range? As played I fold.
6) Limp/shove is usually AA, KK in my expereience, but this guy seems pretty crazy so I would shove and hope UTG calls with 10-10 and the MP has some shit.
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so in hand 5 you advocate donking? he's the pf aggressor
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humanfugitive
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Flop: ($11.25) 10, 6, J (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, MP calls $3.50
why such a low cbet?
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dsaxton
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Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
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Hand 1: Seems like an easy 3-bet / call. People that raise to $5 after one limper in a $.25/$.50 game are usually clueless and can't be given enough credit for a hand to warrant any other play, in my opinion.
Hand 2: I'd probably call if he's a gambling donk. Just backdoor the nuts if he has you beat.
Hand 3: Probably call but it's a lame spot. I've seen this done by donks with naked flush draws, flush draws that picked up a pair on the turn, top pair and nut hands. I think your hand is too big to fold against those types of holdings, especially if you've caught him bluffing before.
Hand 4: I'd c-bet larger and get all-in by the river most of the time.
Hand 5: That's a decent card for him to double barrel since if you have a hand like J-T, you now only have two outs against Q-Q or better. It's also makes it less likely that you flopped a set. I don't think many players at $50NL are double barreling here, though, so I'd fold. Also 3-bet preflop.
Hand 6: I'd fold. Also, you want him to think you're squeezing when you have queens. Hopefully it causes him to call a bit lighter preflop, but I wouldn't necessarily expect him to 4-bet light as a result, hence the fold.
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will641
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1: i could really go either way but probably just 3bet get it in.
2: if you have seen him do stupid shit like this with middle pairs, gut shots, etc. then i call. otherwise fold.
3: i mean...after raising the turn folding seems pretty silly with the equity we have.
4: holy good god your 3-bet size and flop c-bet is bad.
5: i really don't get what you're doing...why did you flat the button raise, and just call the squeeze oop? it's such a typical squeeze spot that if i decided to flat there (which i would only do if bb is just a retarded squeeze monkey, and even then probably not), i would 4-bet get it in.
6: bleh, fold. and once again, your 3-bet size is too unnecessarily large.
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XTR1000
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#1 With stack sizes it´s an easy 3ball/call
#2 Idk, if "gambling donk" means his range contains pair+gs I call it off, otherwise I muck
#3 If you´re not going to snap-call his turn 3bet you shouldn´t be raising in the first place. Idk what to make of your "donk read", Id prob flat turn and play a river.
#4 Sup with flop betsizing? Very weird line by villain. He´s not repping much, Im all in.
#5 Yea 3bet pre unless BB is squeezing notably wide. I agree on him being strong on the turn, especially since our range isn´t all that weak.
#6 Preflop sizing is a bit over top, Id go with 14-15BB in position and the cold caller in between. A true donk is spazzing enough here to not be worried about him. It´s a simple math question with all the dead money already in the middle. With UTG having AA/KK and half of the possible AK combos and the donk having a mix of trapping hands and spazzos you´re like 25%-30%. After 3betting a shove puts $40 more into a final pot of like $135. Flip a coin.
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Why is my 3b sizing and flop sizing bad, will?
I'm OOP, so if I raise pot (which would be $1.75 already in the pot, $3.25 with my call, my raise should be 3.25 over his 1.5 bet, = 4.75) he's going to call with a wider range because he's in position
if 4.75 is pot, I think 5.25 is standard but I didn't feel like typing in that EXACT number
in terms of the flop sizing, if I bet the flop 3.50, the turn 13, the pot is 44 on the river with 30 behind = easy shove
why WOULDN'T I do this with nut hands? I can get all in no problem by the river
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will641
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Originally Posted by iopq
Why is my 3b sizing and flop sizing bad, will?
I'm OOP, so if I raise pot (which would be $1.75 already in the pot, $3.25 with my call, my raise should be 3.25 over his 1.5 bet, = 4.75) he's going to call with a wider range because he's in position
if 4.75 is pot, I think 5.25 is standard but I didn't feel like typing in that EXACT number
in terms of the flop sizing, if I bet the flop 3.50, the turn 13, the pot is 44 on the river with 30 behind = easy shove
why WOULDN'T I do this with nut hands? I can get all in no problem by the river
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sorry i misread the action on the QQ hand. i thought you were in position, so your 3-bet size is fine, but your flop cbet size is still terrible. this is a pretty damn wet board, and you are giving him pretty sick odds to call with like any hand. you are not maximizing your value when he is drawing in other words. you bet tiny on the flop and turn he'll call and fold when he misses on the river, but if you bet bigger (not pot by any means), you will get more value out of it.
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Originally Posted by will641
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Originally Posted by iopq
Why is my 3b sizing and flop sizing bad, will?
I'm OOP, so if I raise pot (which would be $1.75 already in the pot, $3.25 with my call, my raise should be 3.25 over his 1.5 bet, = 4.75) he's going to call with a wider range because he's in position
if 4.75 is pot, I think 5.25 is standard but I didn't feel like typing in that EXACT number
in terms of the flop sizing, if I bet the flop 3.50, the turn 13, the pot is 44 on the river with 30 behind = easy shove
why WOULDN'T I do this with nut hands? I can get all in no problem by the river
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sorry i misread the action on the QQ hand. i thought you were in position, so your 3-bet size is fine, but your flop cbet size is still terrible. this is a pretty damn wet board, and you are giving him pretty sick odds to call with like any hand. you are not maximizing your value when he is drawing in other words. you bet tiny on the flop and turn he'll call and fold when he misses on the river, but if you bet bigger (not pot by any means), you will get more value out of it.
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You are right about the board texture. I half-expect him to raise with a draw so I can get it in, though. However, if he decides to call with great odds it's kind of shitty for me.
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