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NLHE lahooozaher

02-27-2007, 09:39 PM Post subject: Giving up in reraised pots.

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My confidence is really going down now so I'd like to just make sure that these are standard hands.

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UTG ($24.60)
MP ($20)
Button ($33.65)
Hero ($24.75)
BB ($46.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, A

.
2 folds, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25) 3

, T

, Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($7.25) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4.25, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $11.50

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BB ($24.50)
UTG ($24.65)
MP ($35.15)
Hero ($24.95)
SB ($16.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, A

.
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, MP calls $2.25.

Flop: ($6.35) 8

, T

, 5

(2 players)
MP bets $2, Hero folds.

I don't always bet this flop but this was against an aggressive 79/24 playa and wanted to put myself in a bad spot.

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UTG ($23.20)
Button ($37.15)
Hero ($26)
BB ($58.05)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

, Q

.
1 fold, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25) A

, 8

, T

(2 players)
Hero bets $4.5, Button raises to $9, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.75

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($27.30)
MP ($26.10)
Button ($42.05)
Hero ($24.40)
BB ($32.55)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

, T

.
2 folds, Button raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.25) Q

, 3

, K

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $9.25

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02-27-2007, 09:48 PM

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none of these seem bad to me

the first one I bet sometimes, but usually vs ppl who are passive and will just call ; the shitty thing is when you bet then they raise.

also u prob know already but the standard most +ev line is to check-call the QQ hand...

when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?

NLHE lahooozaher

02-27-2007, 09:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Genitruc

also u prob know already but the standard most +ev line is to check-call the QQ hand...

Yeah but check/calling can get really expensive in reraised pots. I dunno, I don't like c/c in reraised pots.

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02-27-2007, 10:00 PM

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A c/r on the turn in hand 1 would be sick.

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NLHE lahooozaher

02-27-2007, 10:03 PM

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Me bluff? I can barely call the river with the nuts when somebody pushes into me.

zenbitz

02-27-2007, 11:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Massimo

A c/r on the turn in hand 1 would be sick.

At $25NL??? There are some people whom this is great against though.
I like a bet here. You have 10 outs vs. any pair, and board is scary enough.

what do you think of button's initial raise?

biondino

02-28-2007, 12:20 AM

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Hand two might merit a raise, or a call then a bet, depending on reads. His flop bet is very weak, which either means draw, mid pair (say 99 in this instance) or, very occasionally, a monster.

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02-28-2007, 12:35 AM

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I'd bet the flop in hand 1 (you probably have a lot of outs) and raise hand 2. Hand 3 is read dependent. Hand 4 I often raise the flop also.

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NLHE lahooozaher

02-28-2007, 01:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by biondino

Hand two might merit a raise, or a call then a bet, depending on reads.

He was something like 80something/30something after a good samplesize. I really didn't think a raise would be good. Sometimes I'll raise in position in this spot but not against somebody I think will never fold.

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