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Miffed22001
Old 08-23-2005, 02:18 AM     Post subject: gambOOL hands #1 (permalink)  
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 Are these calls right to make or am i just mad?

Guessed he was on the draw so good call? Id Seen him gamble like this before.

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Stage #174406049: Holdem No Limit $0.05 [ 2005-08-21 22:55:08 ]
Seat 1 - NEXUSS $3 in chips
Seat 2 - MISTRESS76 $4.10 in chips
Seat 3 - SEALIFE $2.53 in chips
Seat 4 - THEDART $19.35 in chips
Seat 5 - MNORT244 $17.12 in chips
Seat 6 - MIFFED22001 $10.75 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 1] ***
MISTRESS76 - Post small blind $0.05
SEALIFE - Post big blind $0.10
MIFFED22001 - Pocket [Jd,Js]
THEDART - Calls $0.10
MNORT244 - Folds
MIFFED22001 - Raises $0.10 to $0.40
NEXUSS - Folds
MISTRESS76 - Folds
SEALIFE - Calls $0.30
THEDART - Folds
*** FLOP [Ac,Kd,8h] ***
SEALIFE - Bets $0.10
MIFFED22001 - Raises $0.10 to $1
SEALIFE - Calls $0.90
*** TURN [Ac,Kd,8h,6c] ***
SEALIFE - All-In $1.13
MIFFED22001 - Calls $1.13
*** RIVER [Ac,Kd,8h,6c,Ad] ***
SEALIFE - Show cards [Jc,Qh]
MIFFED22001 - Show cards [Jd,Js]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($5.21) Rake ($0.25)
Board [Ac,Kd,8h,6c,Ad]
NEXUSS - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MISTRESS76 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
SEALIFE - HI:One pair, aces [Jc,Qh - B:Ad,B:Ac,B:Kd,P:Qh,P:Jc]
THEDART - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MNORT244 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MIFFED22001 - Total ($4.96) HI$4.96)Two pair, aces and jacks [Jd,Js - B:Ad,B:Ac,P:Js,P:Jd,B:Kd]

Can i bet here or is it simply just a check and give it up? I was tempted to check raise him all in and rep an overpair or jack. Thinking of the previous hand i'd think he would have gambOOl-ed anyway and i had 6 live outs i guess.
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Stage #174407104: Holdem No Limit $0.05 [ 2005-08-21 22:56:53 ]
Seat 4 - THEDART $19.20 in chips
Seat 5 - MNORT244 $17.02 in chips
Seat 6 - MIFFED22001 $13.33 in chips
Seat 1 - NEXUSS $3 in chips
Seat 2 - MISTRESS76 $4.05 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 4] ***
MNORT244 - Post small blind $0.05
MIFFED22001 - Post big blind $0.10
MIFFED22001 - Pocket [Qd,Ac]
NEXUSS - Raises $0.10 to $0.40
MISTRESS76 - Folds
THEDART - Folds
MNORT244 - Folds
MIFFED22001 - Calls $0.30
*** FLOP [5d,8h,Js] ***
MIFFED22001 - Checks
NEXUSS - Bets $0.70
MIFFED22001 - Folds
NEXUSS - returned ($0.70) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
NEXUSS - Show cards [6d,6h]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($0.85)
Board [5d,8h,Js]
NEXUSS - Total ($0.85) HI$0.85)One pair, sixes [6d,6h - P:6h,P:6d,B:Js,B:8h,B:5d]
MISTRESS76 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
THEDART - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MNORT244 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MIFFED22001 - Folded on the FLOP

This guy had nothing made i was certain of that. I was surprised he turned over as good a hand as he did no matter the price.
He was on 'no-cards tilt' after i'd done him for a couplla buy ins which i then donated to a straight flush. so should i have called or do i muck it and wait until its not probably a coin flip? (lucky sob too)
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Stage #174414819: Holdem No Limit $0.05 [ 2005-08-21 23:09:22 ]
Seat 4 - THEDART $17.50 in chips
Seat 5 - MNORT244 $16.17 in chips
Seat 6 - MIFFED22001 $14.08 in chips
Seat 8 - FALSTOY $3.70 in chips
Seat 1 - NEXUSS $3.20 in chips
Seat 2 - MISTRESS76 $5.50 in chips
*** BLIND [dealer 4] ***
MNORT244 - Post small blind $0.05
MIFFED22001 - Post big blind $0.10
MIFFED22001 - Pocket [Kh,Ad]
FALSTOY - Folds
NEXUSS - All-In(Raise) $0.10 to $3.20
MISTRESS76 - Folds
THEDART - Folds
MNORT244 - Folds
MIFFED22001 - Calls $3.10
*** FLOP [Qc,2d,9c] ***
*** TURN [Qc,2d,9c,8d] ***
*** RIVER [Qc,2d,9c,8d,Qh] ***
NEXUSS - Show cards [Qs,Ac]
MIFFED22001 - Show cards [Kh,Ad]
*** RESULT ***
Total Pot($6.45) Rake ($0.30)
Board [Qc,2d,9c,8d,Qh]
NEXUSS - Total ($6.15) All-In HI$6.15)Three of a kind, queens [Qs,Ac - P:Qs,B:Qh,B:Qc,P:Ac,B:9c]
MISTRESS76 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
THEDART - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MNORT244 - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
MIFFED22001 - HI:One pair, queens [Kh,Ad - B:Qh,B:Qc,P:Ad,P:Kh,B:9c]
FALSTOY - Folded on the POCKET CARDS
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Old 08-23-2005, 02:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand #1
I play the same, he came out weak on the flop and after that you are pretty commited to the pot, no point folding. Good read.

Hand #2
If you want to try and bluff him out I'd suggest betting outright as opposed to check/raising him as it saves you chips and he won't feel that "he's already got HIS chips in the middle and he's got to protect them by calling your checkraise"

Hand #3
Despite having him dominated and it being a good call, with AK I either want to see a flop and go from there or be the one pushing AI. Calling an AI with it is not going to show a profit in the long run I don't think.
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Old 08-23-2005, 04:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Calling an AI with it is not going to show a profit in the long run I don't think.
Note taken.
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Old 08-23-2005, 06:00 AM #4 (permalink)  
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#1: completely agree mith Andr3w's comment
#2: Head's up on such a ragged boards I always make a continuation bet of about 1/2 or 3/4 of the pot, that's profitable in the long run I think. Most of the time they didn't hit either and immediately give up. If they call and there's no obvious draw, proceed cautiously. The check-raise play suggested backfires I think, just like Andr3w said.
#3: I only call AIs with AK when the other one is tilting really badly, like going AI preflop every other hand. Against other unpaired hands (not dominated) you are only a 65 % - 35% fave IIRC, and a 45% dog against lower pairs, so it's not an automatic call. There are easier ways to get their money ..
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Old 08-23-2005, 01:42 PM #5 (permalink)  
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#1: completely agree mith Andr3w's comment
#2: Head's up on such a ragged boards I always make a continuation bet of about 1/2 or 3/4 of the pot, that's profitable in the long run I think. Most of the time they didn't hit either and immediately give up. If they call and there's no obvious draw, proceed cautiously. The check-raise play suggested backfires I think, just like Andr3w said.
#3: I only call AIs with AK when the other one is tilting really badly, like going AI preflop every other hand. Against other unpaired hands (not dominated) you are only a 65 % - 35% fave IIRC, and a 45% dog against lower pairs, so it's not an automatic call. There are easier ways to get their money ..
Agree with your point totally.
I was just so sure that he would turn over an ace high hand i would dominate as he was annoyed that i kept taking small pots away from him and he'd had little cards apart from when i had better ones. i was surprised he turned over such a decent hand but i still would have fancied my chances in this ituation. Normally its an auto fold but anyways...
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