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Old 03-30-2007, 09:53 PM     Post subject: fold ur trips!! FPS? #1 (permalink)  
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maybe i worte too much pre-hand stuff, but don't want this to look toooo bad.

anyways villain seems donkish-lag but kinda thinking post flop, ~30/10 pre flop.
i have a NIT image, like 14/8...never playing big pots, just fold fold fold, except a couple times showing down the goods in medium pots. i haven't even cbet a ton.

some notes on villain:
c/c flop, c/r min turn with a low boat multiway on drawy board
call K3s oop hu vs my pfr, led turn/riv with air after flop check
c/r min a cbet to see where mid pair stood (he shut down after getting called).

thought process:
so i figured on the flop he wasn't sure of his hand, and I might take the pot on the turn. FPS with no outs huh?
then thought on the turn he prob had a Kx hand, usually a weak kicker...bad idea to rep the AK?
seemed there was enough left to at least make it a hard call on the turn. fwiw i insta pushed.

Hand #40567552-36084 at East Peoria (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 30/Mar/07 05:43:02

joesphe is at seat 0 with $0 (sitting out).
sashager is at seat 1 with $891.70.
frank_tank is at seat 2 with $754.45.
XXPSAXX is at seat 3 with $836.45.
Hero is at seat 4 with $428.50.
needamil is at seat 5 with $110.60.
The button is at seat 5.

sashager posts the small blind of $2.
frank_tank posts the big blind of $4.

sashager: -- --
frank_tank: -- --
XXPSAXX: -- --
Hero: :Th:
needamil: -- --

Pre-flop:

XXPSAXX folds. Hero raises to $14. needamil
calls. sashager calls. frank_tank folds.

Flop (board: :Kd: :Ks: pot=$44

sashager checks. Hero bets $32. needamil
folds. sashager raises to $64. Hero calls.


Turn (board: :Kd: :Ks: ): pot=$172

sashager bets $100. Hero goes all-in for
$350.50.

i think my thought process was good, except for getting someone to fold trips - just not a good idea...especially with 0 outs. agreed? or ok with my image and metagame stuff?
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Old 03-30-2007, 10:08 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I don't think he's folding whatever he has, unless it's complete air.


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Old 03-30-2007, 11:08 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Great play... terrible opponent to try it on.
I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
 
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I don't think he's folding whatever he has, unless it's complete air.
why? based on the one 99 hand, he prob didnt flop a monster like K7/77...and wouldn't he think i did with how i played?

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Great play... terrible opponent to try it on.
thanks, but who would be a better opp? i know his betting looks donkish, but he seemed to at least consider what other ppl have.
not only that, but he could take this line with a bigger range than a tighter opp, and still be capable of folding the lower end of it.
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benny- im not sure i would ever make a big bluff against a 30/10. You should be raising his limps frequently in position and waiting for him to tilt/play back at you/get thin value on 2 or 3 streets from top pair etc. He cant be very good if he plays 30/10, end of story.
I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
 
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Old 03-31-2007, 03:10 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 based on your notes the important thing is that he shut down when called after raising for info.

he didn't shut down here so that's scary.

it's a great board for him to make a move though, so I don't hate your play.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 03-31-2007, 04:18 AM #7 (permalink)  
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good explanations, thanks.

ya this wasnt a great bluff, maybe too much late night over-analyzing and getting a little antsy...appreciate the comments though.
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