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r8ed

03-15-2006, 01:24 PM Post subject: Fold or Float?

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This guy wasn't on the table long enough to have read on but somebody reraising a cbet isn't uncommmon. I thought about folding to flop cr, but I wanted to see how he reacted on the turn. OOPS...did I do that? There are two diamonds on that flop, so if he has the King he should be leading out. I tend to do this often with a PP and it seems to be successful as even if I miss I can find an opportunity to steal or show down against Ax that misses. Is this just a standard play for most?

***** Hand History for Game 3745277976 *****
0/0 Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) - Wed Mar 15 00:17:33 EST 2006
Table Lady Ester (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: AbVad ( $105.55)
Seat 2: ninja808 ( $102.70)
Seat 3: napierootz ( $116.41)
Seat 4: cweibs ( $44.32)
Seat 5: lamonica6 ( $51.84)
Seat 6: jandje ( $125.39)
AbVad posts small blind (0.50)
ninja808 posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to jandje [ Jc, Jh ]
napierootz folds.
cweibs folds.
lamonica6 calls (1)
jandje raises (4) to 4
AbVad folds.
ninja808 calls (3)
lamonica6 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 5s, Kd ]
ninja808 checks.
jandje bets (7)
ninja808 raises (14) to 14
jandje calls (7)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Js ]
ninja808 checks.
jandje bets (20)
ninja808 calls (20)
** Dealing River ** : [ 7s ]
ninja808 checks.
jandje bets (87.39)
jandje is all-In.
ninja808 calls (64.70)
ninja808 is all-In.

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alias2211

03-15-2006, 02:41 PM

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you have position and it's only a minraise CR. i don't think you should make that fold very often. you ahead here with the JJ often, saying nothing of the turn help that comes. i see tons of players trying to min checkraise the flop like that w/ an underpair (99, 1010) or a draw, even two overs.

also, don't assume that if he has a K he has to lead out. maybe that is what you would do, but you said you don't have a read on him, so you can't make that assumption. it's dangerous to get into the mindset where you're basing plays off assumptions made w/o confirmation. be aware of how you would play the hand, but also be aware of how he is actually playing his own hand, too.

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SmackinYaUp

03-15-2006, 02:49 PM

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I say well played. Check min-raising is the new beanie baby so punish those wimps.

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03-15-2006, 06:15 PM

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I like the way you played it. I'm not too afraid of the check-min raise, although if he lead out big on the turn and the J didn't hit I would muck. There's no reason to believe he has the flush since it was runner runner, I figure he has a lower set or something. Results..?

r8ed

03-15-2006, 06:44 PM

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Oh yeah, I'm easily folding to a turn bet if he stays strong and I don't hit a Jack. But if a diamond falls, I'm repping that most likely - especially if he bets 1/2 pot or less.

He had AK. Sorry for the mini-suckout buddy, but I had plenty of those against me before this hand.

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