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NLHE lahooozaher

02-22-2007, 12:46 AM Post subject: A fold and a calldown

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Both against a donkey, 53/30something/4.xx/lotsa hands. Are these ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($8.70)
SB ($22.40)
BB ($35.55)
UTG ($59.50)
MP ($26.85)
Hero ($31.15)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

, J

.
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 7

, 8

, A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.5, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.50.

Turn: ($8.10) A

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($8.10) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $18.10

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($3.60)
SB ($27.40)
BB ($27.70)
Hero ($25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q

, A

.
Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 4

, A

, 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($2.10) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($6.10) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $16.10

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Benoso

02-22-2007, 01:58 AM

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I'm calling hand 1 every day of the week, the overbet looks real dodgy imo.

griffey24

02-22-2007, 02:49 AM

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Hand 1 - WOW.. i can't believe you folded that. I think you HAVE to call that, especially since you checked through the turn and opened yourself up for bluffs. Hell... I might even find a value raise here ... a 4 AF, he could easily be raising a bare A on that flop.

Hand 2 - this is fine, I would play it the same. Or bet the flop and then check the turn and call the river.

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02-22-2007, 03:01 AM

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zenbitz

02-22-2007, 07:04 PM

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hand 1, fold, he has straight flush, obv. (????)
hand 2, board is pretty grusome, but I assume villian with those stats is spewy post flop, and it's a pretty cheap showdown. On deep reflection, I think you line is significantly better than leading the flop, because a raise is really horrible for you.

griffey24

02-22-2007, 07:25 PM

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I guess I just don't get it. The first thing your post says is that this guy is a donkey at 53/30ish/4+!

So given this guys stats, and his very high AF, I don't see how either of these aren't insta-calls. Especially given how cheap these river calls are.

If you said villain was 10/4/0.85 nitty or something, thats a different story. But even in this case, I still think I would call both of these. I might find a fold in hand 2, but still call hand 1 for sure.

bbqsquirrel

02-22-2007, 07:27 PM

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What most others said. Instant call hand 1.

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NLHE lahooozaher

02-22-2007, 08:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zenbitz

hand 1, fold, he has straight flush, obv. (????)

I was thinking more that he was getting tricky with a boat. If the board didn't pair and he didn't check the turn, I obv. instacall but I just don't see a low stakes donk check/minraising the flop/checking the turn/overbetting the river with something I beat.

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On deep reflection, I think you line is significantly better than leading the flop, because a raise is really horrible for you.

Yeah, this is how I play pretty much every monotone board that I hit 1 pair. I just go for the cheap showdown/pot control garbage. Bet on turn if checked to. He had AxKd in this hand so I was pretty happy about checking it since he would've c/r'ed and I wanted to see a showdown against him.

silu73

02-22-2007, 11:28 PM

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Hand 1 is a call and I would be very, very surprised if opp has a boat

I would bet the flop in Hand 2. Flopped flushes are rare and if someone wants to chase with a lone Diamond then so be it. But I can see nothing wrong with the way you played it either.

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