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Old 12-16-2005, 08:36 PM     Post subject: Fold a boat?? #1 (permalink)  
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Both the villians here are very LAG, quite smart and both fond of overbetting pots. My image is fairly TAG.

** Game ID 613274665 starting - 2005-12-15 21:11:44
** 4Runner [Hold 'em] (1.00|2.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money

- sollet21 sitting in seat 1 with $250.70
- Toodles sitting in seat 2 with $123.50
- ollie0b sitting in seat 3 with $380.75
- TwoFace_ sitting in seat 4 with $254.55 [Dealer]
- f1nky sitting in seat 5 with $308.85
- BreedOfEvil sitting in seat 6 with $170.15

f1nky posted the small blind - $1.00
BreedOfEvil posted the big blind - $2.00
** Dealing card to f1nky: 5 of Spades, 5 of Diamonds
sollet21 folded
Toodles folded
ollie0b called - $2.00
TwoFace_ raised - $10.00
f1nky called - $10.00
BreedOfEvil folded
ollie0b called - $10.00

** Dealing the flop: 2 of Hearts, Jack of Hearts, 2 of Spades
f1nky checked
ollie0b checked
TwoFace_ checked

** Dealing the turn: 5 of Hearts
f1nky bet - $12.00
ollie0b raised - $24.00
TwoFace_ folded
f1nky called - $24.00

Pot around $80
** Dealing the river: Jack of Spades
f1nky checked
ollie0b bet - $106.00
f1nky ???

My hand is well disguised and I've induced a bluff but why would he bet that much without a J on such a scary board? What hands would min raise on the turn, quad 2's, JxQs maybe?

I called the turn with the intention of C/R all in on the river but that J is the last card i want to see...
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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you cant make this call. most times in this spot youll be beat. because he was getting good odds on his money preflop closing the betting round, it is plausible he could have the jack.

if the pre-flop raiser made this play, it screams bluff, i call in a heartbeat.
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Old 12-16-2005, 09:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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you should reraise the turn.

i would lead the river as played and fold to a raise.
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Old 12-17-2005, 01:32 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I think you right gabe, kinda figured i had the nuts on the turn though and you dont really worry about suckouts with a boat

Thing is i never really put him on a hand, i just knew he would bet the river anyway and was looking for a way to push me off the pot. Would a naked J reraise strength from EP and into the PFRer once a potential flush completed?

Anyway I folded, but I can't help feeling I was outplayed.
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Old 12-17-2005, 03:58 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Fold here.

You should NOT raise the turn; that will tip him off.

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