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FLush draw in 3bet pot IP. Turn overcard, now?

  
 
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:03 PM     Post subject: FLush draw in 3bet pot IP. Turn overcard, now? #1 (permalink)  
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60 hands 25/18/2.2 folded to my first 3 bet.

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CO ($48.50)
Hero (Button) ($51.70)
SB ($77.92)
BB ($49)
UTG ($65.35)
MP ($26.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, J
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, Hero raises $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) 2, 7, 5 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7, CO calls $7

Turn: ($26.75) K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero?
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:08 PM #2 (permalink)  
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double barrel as ur range likes the K way more than his
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Old 05-22-2009, 09:25 PM #3 (permalink)  
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like 18?
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:15 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Another hand where I hate preflop. You pretty much ruin the value of J10s when you do this without specific reads. As played I'd bet turn and shove a lot of rivers.
 
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:31 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yup you gotta bet the turn. That card should not really affect the way you bet. You still have a flush draw.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:45 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Another hand where I hate preflop. You pretty much ruin the value of J10s when you do this without specific reads. As played I'd bet turn and shove a lot of rivers.
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JT flops well enough that it doesn't need to be 3-bet like this. 3-bet the lower connectors/gappers.


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Old 05-23-2009, 03:07 AM #7 (permalink)  
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preflop hand selection and sizing suck. on turn you should bet like 9.50 and shove any river
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:02 AM #8 (permalink)  
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don't 3b, make it 5.25 if you do, etc.

when I cbet in a 3b pot I'm already thinking about barrelling
and that's why I don't cbet on this board that often
I just check it back because a lot of people auto-call overcards in 3b pots on the flop, and the guy has to be playing fit or fold for a cbet to be profitable unless I'm already planning to barrel a lot of turn cards
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Old 05-23-2009, 12:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I'd bet 12 and shove river.

You don't wanna bet too big that you don't have a good sized bet left on the river.
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Old 05-23-2009, 03:04 PM #10 (permalink)  
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ok thanks guys.

Preflop I'll go lower w sc's/gappers for 3betting. I thought I should have barreled turn when looking back, so thanks for clearing that up.

River completed flush and I shoved, he called w A8 for the flush. But the real problem was the turn
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Old 05-23-2009, 04:12 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Yup you gotta bet the turn. That card should not really affect the way you bet. You still have a flush draw.
Actually it should. The K is a great scare card for us to use as a bluff since it hits our range so hard.


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Old 05-23-2009, 05:48 PM #12 (permalink)  
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sizing is kinda awkward here, but yah gotta triple barrel this

.. or you can bet bigger on flop and shove any turn
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