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Old 11-06-2005, 04:40 AM     Post subject: Flopping the nut straight #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #2984748742: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/11/06 - 00:10:31 (ET)
Table 'Mechthild' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: AgamDes ($11.95 in chips)
Seat 2: RIPKrash ($87.95 in chips)
Seat 3: mydogpound ($56.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Everton1878 ($106 in chips)
Seat 5: GTV2020 ($110.05 in chips)
Seat 6: VOLCANO69 ($113 in chips)
mydogpound: posts small blind $0.50
Everton1878: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Everton1878 [Jd Qd]
GTV2020: calls $1
VOLCANO69: calls $1
AgamDes: folds
RIPKrash: calls $1
mydogpound: calls $0.50
Everton1878: checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 8c 9s]
mydogpound: checks
Everton1878: bets $4
GTV2020: raises $8 to $12
VOLCANO69: calls $12
RIPKrash: folds
mydogpound: folds
Everton1878: raises $23 to $35
GTV2020: calls $23
VOLCANO69: calls $23
*** TURN *** [Th 8c 9s] [Kd]
Everton1878: bets $70 and is all-in
GTV2020: folds
VOLCANO69: folds
Everton1878 collected $107 from pot
Everton1878: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $110 | Rake $3
Board [Th 8c 9s Kd]
Seat 1: AgamDes folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: RIPKrash (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mydogpound (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Everton1878 (big blind) collected ($107)
Seat 5: GTV2020 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: VOLCANO69 folded on the Turn

Comments? I wanted to protect vs a set or 2 pair. GTV later said he had 910.
 
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Old 11-06-2005, 12:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm not sure if I would re-raise the flop... I think calling best disguises your hand in this situation. Checking the turn would definitely get you a decent bet from T9, who at this point doesn't put you on a made straight and believes he probably has the best hand. That's just the way I would play it. The board doesn't have any flush draws... I would've played it like you did had there been 2 suited cards on the flop.
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Old 11-06-2005, 04:06 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by mxiu
I'm not sure if I would re-raise the flop... I think calling best disguises your hand in this situation. Checking the turn would definitely get you a decent bet from T9, who at this point doesn't put you on a made straight and believes he probably has the best hand. That's just the way I would play it. The board doesn't have any flush draws... I would've played it like you did had there been 2 suited cards on the flop.
agreed
my only question is would you laydown if the board pairs on the turn having played the hand like this?
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Old 11-07-2005, 12:58 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Reraising the flop is a very good play. There's no need to slowplay when there's a raise and a call in front of you. There's no need to make a huge raise, just a smallish one. Not only does it build the pot, it gives the original raiser than chance to push. On the turn I'd bet about 30 and price them in. There are no flush draws out there so you DO want callers. Value betting is crucial here to get more money into the pot.
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Old 11-07-2005, 06:00 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Would you call my raise on the flop huge or small or in between?

If I bet $30 on the turn, I'm letting a set draw for the right price.
 
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Old 11-08-2005, 04:15 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Maybe, but if a set is out there I don't think they're folding no matter what you bet. If somebody has two pair or top pair or what have you then you want them in. A set isn't folding no matter what. Meanwhile, value betting is what you want to do here, not chase away worse hands.
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