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08-20-2007, 02:25 AM
Post subject: Flopped top two in 3bet pot facing mini-raise
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
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Villain is 23/10 over 222 hands, no reads.
I already know I fucked up the 3bet. I wanted to make it $26-29, I was playing too many tables on new and fast software I wasn't use to.
Stacks are:
Button sitting in seat 3 with $326.45 [Dealer]
Hero sitting in seat 4 with $289.50
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JeffreyGB
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The only hand we're reasonably afraid of here is JJ. His range is much wider than that, for sure including AJ, AK, and possibly some smaller pairs, aces, and draws. The question to me is whether you get value best by reraising or by calling (and whether to bet or check the turn).
I think most real hands in his range are more likely to continue on the flop, so I think a 3bet is slightly better.
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snowbird4life
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Basically what he said ^
Ii think you see AK and AJ, maybe even A10 or a KX of hearts. It could even be someone fighting your 3bet or just Ax. I wouldn't be too surprised to see k10, but thats such a small portion of his range which is pretty wide that im willing to stack off almost for sure. Im pretty sure i 3bet and look to get it in on now or on a blank turn.
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JeffreyGB
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Originally Posted by snowbird4life
I wouldn't be too surprised to see k10
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I'm not sure that a 23/10 is raising KT from BU.
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snowbird4life
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Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
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Originally Posted by snowbird4life
I wouldn't be too surprised to see k10
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I'm not sure that a 23/10 is raising KT from BU. |
No? While i don't think its likely, i wouldn't be too surprised to see it. Its folded to you in the button and you don't raise KT? If you mean because he called a 3bet and hes 23/10 i can see your argument, but again, i wouldn't be too surprised if he called your 3bet with KT after raising it from the button. And Hero accidentally raised so little. It seems unlikely, but maybe hes just being stubborn, and with a 10pfr do you really think k10 is out of his range when its folded to him on the button? I ran like with an 11pfr for a while and i know if it was folded to me on the button i would raise k10, maybe not call a 3bet, but his 3bet was small.
Besides that, im still advocating getting your money is as your far ahead of the vast majority of his range and it seems slim that he has k10/jj here.
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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whats villians name?
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I Like Pie
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Originally Posted by Triptanes
whats villians name?
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ralfonzteri
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lolzzz_321
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NO YOU
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never played against him 
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by JeffreyGB
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Originally Posted by snowbird4life
I wouldn't be too surprised to see k10
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I'm not sure that a 23/10 is raising KT from BU. |
It depends how positional he is but when I played 20/10, KT was one of the better hands I raised from the button.
Whether or not he calls a reraise with KT from the button is more open to debate (except it isnt now we've seen results)
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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I Like Pie
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Here is the result from the hand:
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Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1.50/$3
5 players
Stack sizes:
UTG: $290.65
CO: $337.15
Button: $326.45
Hero: $289.50
BB: $126.30
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A  Q 
2 folds, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $16, BB folds, Button calls.
Flop: A Q  J ($36.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $38, Button raises to $76, Hero raises all-in $235.5, Button calls.
Turn: 9 ($545.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $507.5, Sidepot 1: $38)
River: 7 ($545.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $507.5, Sidepot 1: $38)
Results:
Final pot: $545.5
Hero shows Ad Qh
Button shows 10h Kh
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Right after I thought it was a spew but the more I thought about it I didn't think it was that bad.
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minSim
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Are we folding AK?
What about AJ?
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Pelion
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Originally Posted by minSim
Are we folding AK?
What about AJ?
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AK - yes.
AJ - maybe...probably
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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