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Old 01-26-2006, 02:25 AM     Post subject: Flopped straight, turned flush, do you fold? #1 (permalink)  
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No reads, I was at the table for maybe 10 hands so far. I think I should have either folded the turn or pushed there. do you slowplay this flop like I did? is it a flush over flush?

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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 25, 22:20:15 EDT 2006
Table Table 73596 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: SmackinYaUp ( $120.50 )
Seat 2: SharkMerc ( $114.30 )
Seat 3: BrokeFrmBJ ( $100 )
Seat 4: crickeye ( $53.50 )
Seat 5: rollacorolla ( $108.05 )
Seat 6: jd9786 ( $208.80 )
jd9786 posts small blind [$0.50].
SmackinYaUp posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to SmackinYaUp [ 9s 7s ]
SharkMerc folds.
BrokeFrmBJ raises [$4].
crickeye folds.
rollacorolla folds.
jd9786 calls [$3.50].
>You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
SmackinYaUp calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6s, 8s, Th ]
jd9786 checks.
SmackinYaUp checks.
>You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
BrokeFrmBJ bets [$10].
jd9786 calls [$10].
>You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
SmackinYaUp calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
jd9786 checks.
SmackinYaUp bets [$15].
BrokeFrmBJ folds.
>You have options at Table 65303 (6 max) (No DP) Table!.
jd9786 raises [$45].
SmackinYaUp calls [$30].
** Dealing River ** [ Qc ]
jd9786 bets [$62].
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Old 01-26-2006, 03:56 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd lead out or check-raise the flop, leaning more towards leading out. On the turn you should fold. All you can beat is a seriously overplayed smaller flush.
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Old 01-26-2006, 05:11 AM #3 (permalink)  
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On the turn you should fold. All you can beat is a seriously overplayed smaller flush.
I don't necessarily agree with this. From villian's perspective, why does he need a flush to raise the turn like this? Smackin calls $10 on the flop, then bets out 1/3 pot on the turn. All it takes is an aggro villian to make a move here, figuring there's a good chance the original raiser will fold to a squeeze and that smackin needs at least a flush to call here.

Without a read I don't think folding the turn is a good idea. I would just call the raise and hope my position can buy me a cheap showdown, otherwise bet if checked to. As played I think you have to fold that river.

But like dsaxton said I think you should've lead out or CR'ed the flop to start building the pot early.
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Old 01-26-2006, 07:01 AM #4 (permalink)  
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you have a really strong but yet pretty vulnerable hand. I either CR or lead-out, depending on how I feel about the villains. If I lead out I am looking to go for a 3-bet committing them i.e. hero raise 8 villain raise to 20 1 fold hero raise to 50-60. Problem here is naturally that you are forced to go Ai on turn no matter what comes. or could anybody find a fold if Qs or 8 or T comes on turn? I cant.
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Old 01-26-2006, 05:16 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Raise the freakin' flop man.
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