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Old 12-11-2006, 09:48 PM     Post subject: Flopped royal flush against preflop raiser #1 (permalink)  
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 Seat 1: GingerW1zard ($21.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Sharkbyte237 ($1 in chips)
Seat 3: vinny ferret ($10.55 in chips)
Seat 4: acesnates2 ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 5: yex17 ($8 in chips)
Seat 6: mijae ($10.05 in chips)
mijae: posts small blind $0.05
GingerW1zard: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GingerW1zard [Ks Js]
Sharkbyte237: folds
vinny ferret: folds
acesnates2: folds
yex17: raises $0.30 to $0.40
mijae: folds
GingerW1zard: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [Ts As Qs]
GingerW1zard: checks
yex17: checks
*** TURN *** [Ts As Qs] [2c]
GingerW1zard: bets $0.50
yex17: folds
GingerW1zard collected $0.85 from pot
GingerW1zard: shows [Ks Js] (a Royal Flush)

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Was I destined never to make money with this? Was hoping for a cbet wrong? (opp had made cbets before but not always. I think he was wary of me since i stacked him about 10 hands previous.)
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Old 12-11-2006, 09:55 PM #2 (permalink)  
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When youve got a monster NLTP says its almost always assume villain has something worth losing a lot of money with and act accordingly.
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Old 12-11-2006, 10:05 PM #3 (permalink)  
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When youve got a monster NLTP says its almost always assume villain has something worth losing a lot of money with and act accordingly.
I think that's true for the most part. But when you flop the stone cold nuts it may be appropriate to slowplay and let villain try to catch up. For example, I put him on a flush draw, so I was hoping another diamond would come...

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UTG ($23.20)
MP ($42.90)
Hero ($49.75)
SB ($45.40)
BB ($52.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A.
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.5, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) A, A, 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($7.75) 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1.

River: ($9.75) J (2 players)
UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $10, UTG calls $8.

Final Pot: $29.75

Results in white below:
UTG has 8s Jd (two pair, aces and jacks).
Hero has Ah Ac (four of a kind, aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $29.75.

In your hand checking the flop is fine, a cbet may be the only bet you get out of him. You do need to bet the turn though, oh well.
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I think that's true for the most part. But when you flop the stone cold nuts it may be appropriate to slowplay and let villain try to catch up. For example, I put him on a flush draw, so I was hoping another diamond would come...
You think hes raising pre with the 9s at 10NL?

Just No....

That board was clearly just too scary for whatever he had. I dont think you were ever going to make money here.

In this situation I think checking is ok. You will still get plenty of value from sets and the straight/flush and you also possibly gain a cbet.

You do have to consider who you are up against though. Plenty of people will call a big bet with a straight/ set (pair + draw) here but will check it if they hold one themselves. If you are up against one of these more passive players then its probably better to just bet bet bet. Either way you arent getting paid in this hand.
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