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spino1i
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02-08-2006, 08:37 PM
Post subject: Flopped the nuts against pre-flop reraise, gameplan?
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Whats my play here (besides celebrating!) and why? Villain is shortstack donk, liberal, likes to bluff
***** Hand History for Game 3517482799 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 08, 16:26:14 EDT 2006
Table Table 69193 (6 max) (No DP) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: bushimushi ( $48.55 )
Seat 2: supermuff ( $143.75 )
Seat 3: betmowinmo21 ( $188.55 )
Seat 4: ksolo274 ( $63.80 )
Seat 5: roybo680 ( $164 )
Seat 6: Evil_Ecstasy ( $181.75 )
bushimushi posts small blind [$1].
supermuff posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Evil_Ecstasy [ 7s 8s ]
betmowinmo21 folds.
ksolo274 folds.
Evil_Ecstasy raises [$6].
bushimushi folds.
supermuff raises [$13].
Evil_Ecstasy calls [$9].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9s, 5h, 6s ]
supermuff bets [$20].
Evil_Ecstasy ???
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Les_Worm
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This is how I play it.
Flop: Smooth Call (keep him in the lead)
Turn: Smooth Call again
River: He now should have most of this chips in. If he bets put him all in, hes commited and has to call. If he checks, bet like 70% of whatever he has left.
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STIdrivr
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i think you are going to take his money most of the ways you could play this. Looks like he has an over pair you may wanna raise before a scare card comes out, its not too bad of a time to slow play.
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spino1i
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Originally Posted by STIdrivr
i think you are going to take his money most of the ways you could play this. Looks like he has an over pair you may wanna raise before a scare card comes out, its not too bad of a time to slow play.
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so you say raise on the flop then?
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Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by spino1i
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Originally Posted by STIdrivr
i think you are going to take his money most of the ways you could play this. Looks like he has an over pair you may wanna raise before a scare card comes out, its not too bad of a time to slow play.
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so you say raise on the flop then?
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I know you weren't asking me but I think raising on the flop is a mistake. He probably won't fold a big pair but he might slow down and you don't want that. Even if you don't have any spades I still probably don't raise if you put him on a big pair. I think you should only raise if you can put him on 2 big suited cards.
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spino1i
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Originally Posted by Les_Worm
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Originally Posted by spino1i
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Originally Posted by STIdrivr
i think you are going to take his money most of the ways you could play this. Looks like he has an over pair you may wanna raise before a scare card comes out, its not too bad of a time to slow play.
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so you say raise on the flop then?
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I know you weren't asking me but I think raising on the flop is a mistake. He probably won't fold a big pair but he might slow down and you don't want that. Even if you don't have any spades I still probably don't raise if you put him on a big pair. I think you should only raise if you can put him on 2 big suited cards.
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If I put him on two big suited cards I want to smooth call, so that he hits one of those two big cards or bluffs away his whole stack. If he has AK of spades, well his money is going all-in no matter what happens, so I cant chase him out with a raise. If he has an overpair and I raise him he pushes. So im thinking smooth call is good no matter what.
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Fnord
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Call, particularly given the profile. You still have 2 streets left to get paid off and his PFR + c-bet have built up the pot for you.
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STIdrivr
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Originally Posted by STIdrivr
i think you are going to take his money most of the ways you could play this. Looks like he has an over pair you may wanna raise before a scare card comes out, its not too bad of a time to slow play.
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so you say raise on the flop then?
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In this situation i would call on the flop cause you have position and raise the turn when he hopefully bets again.
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dalecooper
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I call, but against a more thoughtful opponent I like a flop raise. There are way too many turn cards that don't affect or even improve your hand that would scare a good player into slowing down. Against this guy, I like one smooth call and try to get it all in on the turn. Position against a player like this, when you've flopped a monster, is the ultimate weapon.
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