Poker Forum

Over 1,247,000 Posts!

REGISTER
Subscribe to FTR web feed
Already Registered?      Username:    Password:   Remember      Forgot Password

Poker Forum

  > 

Short-Handed NL Hold'em

  > 

flopped a boat vs aggro...slowplay?

  
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
benny999
Old 07-18-2007, 02:44 AM     Post subject: flopped a boat vs aggro...slowplay? #1 (permalink)  
benny999's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,567
benny999
Send a message via AIM to benny999 Send a message via MSN to benny999
villain (25/20, seems aggro) 3bets quite a bit, and i usually fold but sometimes 4 bet. i don't think i've called a 3bet before.

at first i was planning to c/r on a non-ace flop, but then i figure i might play TT-QQ like this and he's more likely betting than calling.

is there a definite better way to play here?

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2./$4.
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $410.20
CO: $833
Button: $361.70
SB: $396
BB: $187.40

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K K
Hero raises to $14, CO raises to $48, 3 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: K 2 2 ($102, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $75, Hero calls.

Turn: J ($252, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: J ($252, 2 players)
Hero checks (~$300 left)
Reply With Quote

Play for FREE and practice your game at...

Join the FTR Poker Forum to disable these banners and start posting!
|~|ypermegachi
Old 07-18-2007, 04:05 AM #2 (permalink)  
|~|ypermegachi's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|~|ypermegachi
push!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Reply With Quote
dsaxton
Old 07-18-2007, 04:57 AM #3 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
dsaxton
Quote:
Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
push!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What hands do you think call a push that don't bet when checked to? If this guy is aggressive enough, I think checking and trying to induce a bet is not a bad play. If it gets checked through, it's unlikely you missed much value by checking. It also sends a message that you are capable of checking a nut hand to him repeatedly to let him hang himself, which should slow him down.
Reply With Quote
|~|ypermegachi
Old 07-18-2007, 05:24 AM #4 (permalink)  
|~|ypermegachi's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|~|ypermegachi
overbet = screw you, i have an A and i'm not splitting this pot with you....PSYCH!
 
Reply With Quote
benny999
Old 07-18-2007, 05:25 AM #5 (permalink)  
benny999's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,567
benny999
Send a message via AIM to benny999 Send a message via MSN to benny999
dsaxton, good points on metagame.

but ya if he has AK/AA/Jx and bluffs he should bet the river, right?

also, what do you think of sticking with the flop check-raise plan?
Reply With Quote
|~|ypermegachi
Old 07-18-2007, 01:30 PM #6 (permalink)  
|~|ypermegachi's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|~|ypermegachi
ok, let's break it down. i always say overbet push when i get the opportunity.

what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?
Reply With Quote
dsaxton
Old 07-18-2007, 04:57 PM #7 (permalink)  
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Arlington, VA
Posts: 2,667
dsaxton
Quote:
Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?
Um, no. The range you describe is fairly conservative. If he is 3-betting "light," then his range is clearly much wider.
Reply With Quote
benny999
Old 07-18-2007, 05:13 PM #8 (permalink)  
benny999's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,567
benny999
Send a message via AIM to benny999 Send a message via MSN to benny999
Quote:
Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
ok, let's break it down. i always say overbet push when i get the opportunity.

what's the range of hands do you put him on in a light 3bet? all pairs? AK/AQ/KQ?
i'm thinking it's the better part of his full 3-bet range here.
definite hands will be TT+/AQ+...but stuff like QJs, 77, etc are possible too, so i'm not sure what his exact range is.
Reply With Quote
|~|ypermegachi
Old 07-18-2007, 05:33 PM #9 (permalink)  
|~|ypermegachi's Avatar
4-of-a-Kind

Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: emo-kid
Posts: 3,580
|~|ypermegachi
the range i described is 9.5%.
once you add AJ/KJ/QJ you get 13%
JT+ you get 17.9%

what exactly does 3betting light mean? does it mean 90% of his 20% raising range? or 10%?

also, realize that even with open pushing, for him to call is just a little less than 2:1.
Reply With Quote
Reply
Latest Poker News
Bbickes Old 06-02-2012, 08:10 PM    Merge Network 6.0 Looks to Retain Current Player Base
In an effort to perhaps keep players from moving to the new Revolution Network setup by the former Lock Poker, Merge Network has taken drastic steps to respond to their player base's requests to impro ...

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:50 AM.

Contact Us - Archive - Top

FTR Testimonials

All content
© FlopTurnRiver.com 		Advertising  |   Partners  |   Testimonials  |   T&C  |   Contact Us  |   FTR News & Press  |   Site Map  |   Search FTR

Full Tilt  |   Titan Poker  |   UltimateBet  |   Poker Stars  |   Ladbrokes Bonus  |   Sportsbook  |   Cake Poker  

Play Texas Holdem Online, Online Texas Holdem Strategy, & Poker Forum
This is not a gambling website.