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aislephive
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06-12-2006, 07:33 AM
Post subject: Flop top pair and flush draw, turned two pair; villain leads
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4-of-a-Kind
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Villain is 30/12. He once limped QQ in MP and checked behind on a 554 flop and paid off a turned straight for a small pot. Gives me the impression he doesn't know what he's doing. What's the optimal turn action?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($171)
Hero ($302.63)
Button ($115.70)
SB ($198.50)
BB ($189.20)
UTG ($214.20)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 , A. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $4, Button calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2.
Flop: ($17) A , 9, J (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $12, Button folds, BB folds, MP calls $12.
Turn: ($41) 8 (2 players)
MP bets $45, Hero ???
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fold preflop but I'm raising the roof on the turn as played
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Robert
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I often call this too prf, but I would like it even more if you had the button.
His line looks very fishy to me, could probably be AJ, AA or JJ, so I would just call and seek a cheap showdown unless you hit your flush on the river. I doubt that AK, AQ or AT checkcalls flop and leads turn, so thats why I just call.
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ihategnomes
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Id like the call with 87s more so than A8s.
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gabe
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preflop is fine, its a minraise
i think calling the turn is fine. QT will pay you off when you hit one of your outs on the river.
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dalecooper
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That's a healthy pot-sized bet on the turn - it looks a lot like he was slow-playing something or just hit a straight. I would call and look to stack him with the right river card.
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dsaxton
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I think it depends on his likely hand range, and his calling standards for a turn raise. If he's likely to be holding A-K or A-Q here after this betting, and will call a raise with them, just go all-in. Otherwise, I think calling and allowing him to overplay hands you beat is better, since a raise will either result in a fold, or a call or reraise from a better hand. I think your river play after calling the turn would depend on his bet size, and whether or not you fill up or hit your flush.
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