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Old 11-01-2006, 09:30 AM     Post subject: Flop blocking bet with KK #1 (permalink)  
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 Villain is kinda loose and kinda passive. He probably doesn't raise enough. I haven't played with him enough to know what his reraising range is, but I would have to assume its small.

POKERSTARS GAME #6844425534: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2006/10/31 - 18:52:10 (ET)
Table 'Orion' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Teldren ($385.75 in chips)
Seat 2: crookedhat99 ($198.75 in chips)
Seat 3: MR786 ($331.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Yuza ($311.95 in chips)
Seat 5: baseball 42 ($130.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Renton555 ($203.55 in chips)
Renton555: posts small blind $1
Teldren: posts big blind $2

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Renton555 [Kh Kc]

crookedhat99: raises $6 to $8
MR786: raises $16 to $24
Yuza: folds
baseball 42 has timed out
baseball 42: folds
baseball 42 is sitting out
Renton555: calls $23
Teldren: folds
crookedhat99: calls $16

*** FLOP *** [4c 3s Qc]

Renton555: bets $41
crookedhat99: folds
MR786: raises $266.90 to $307.90 and is all-in
Renton555: folds
MR786 collected $153 from pot
MR786: doesn't show hand

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $156 | Rake $3
Board [4c 3s Qc]
Seat 1: Teldren (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: crookedhat99 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: MR786 collected ($153)
Seat 4: Yuza folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: baseball 42 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Renton555 (small blind) folded on the Flop
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Old 11-01-2006, 04:37 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Well you probably have to put him on QQ+ without any other reads... which means you are beating nadah.
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:14 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 why no 3-bet preflop?
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:16 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 yeah, against someone you don't know that well why wouldn't you just get it all in preflop with the 2nd nuts?
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:17 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 you mean fourbet? because it would blow him off the portion of his range that I have beat, and it would commit me to getting stacked on a favorable flop like this one from the hands that beat me.
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yeah, against someone you don't know that well why wouldn't you just get it all in preflop with the 2nd nuts?
The stacks are way too deep to go all in there? yeah idk you could 4 bet but then he could just fold QQ and AK.
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you mean fourbet? because it would blow him off the portion of his range that I have beat, and it would commit me to getting stacked on a favorable flop like this one from the hands that beat me.
Your OOP, you don't have that great of a read on your opponent, and there is possibility of another person calling. You don't really know his reraising range, as you said before.

I don't want to have to make a hard flop decision here... and i want to be isolated. I'd way rather 4-bet to 60 or 70, eliminating crookedhat99 and commiting myself on the flop. You aren't going to get much money from the hands in your range he's beating anyway. AK and AQ is going to fold to your bet most flops. JJ and TT will also play passive and weak to overcard flops.
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