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five hands at $50NL on stars
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donkbee
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12-02-2006, 07:25 AM
Post subject: five hands at $50NL on stars
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1) No reads so should be an easy fold right? Juust checking ...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($50)
MP ($30)
Button ($67.30)
SB ($70.55)
BB ($75.30)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , A .
Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.
Flop: ($6.50) Q , 8 , A (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, Button calls $5, SB calls $5.
Turn: ($21.50) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, Button folds, SB raises to $34, Hero folds.
Final Pot: $67.50
2) No reads. WTF? What does he have?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($66.55)
SB ($39.25)
BB ($59.55)
UTG ($30.50)
MP ($93.30)
CO ($67.80)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K .
UTG calls $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.50, CO calls $2.50.
Flop: ($9.75) 2 , T , J (3 players)
UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7, UTG folds, CO raises to $20, Hero calls $13.
Turn: ($49.75) A (2 players)
CO bets $44.8 (All-In), Hero folds.
Final Pot: $94.55
The next three hands were with the same guy. He seemed to be playing a lot of pots, but I didn't have any solid read on him when these hands occurrred. His stats after 60 hands were 40/17.
3) Just want to check my bet sizes here. Should I have done anything differently?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($48.50)
UTG ($18.25)
MP ($55.90)
Button ($38.70)
SB ($135.35)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , 3 .
UTG calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.
Flop: ($1.50) 3 , K , 6 (3 players)
SB bets $1.5, Hero raises to $4, UTG folds, SB calls $2.50.
Turn: ($9.50) K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6.
River: ($21.50) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $10, SB calls $10.
Final Pot: $41.50
4) Eh I dunno about this entire hand. Limp or raise? Bet the flop or check? What do I do on the river?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($66.50)
MP ($54.45)
CO ($78.50)
Button ($51.90)
SB ($35.20)
BB ($63.75)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A , 7 .
Hero calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($2.50) A , 8 , K (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks.
Turn: ($2.50) 2 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2, MP folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $2.
River: ($6.50) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3.
Final Pot: $12.50
5)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($58)
UTG ($103.05)
MP ($61.40)
Button ($58.25)
SB ($68.05)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 , 2 .
3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50.
Flop: ($4) 6 , J , Q (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $5.
Turn: ($20) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $15, SB calls $10.
River: ($50) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $50
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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martindcx1e
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1) I fold
2) I fold
3) Fine
4) Fold PF. I prob bet flop. Rest seems fine.
5) Wow, talk about blind defense lol. I think it's fine.
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Jager
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Hand 1 is fine
Hand 2 I think he has AT, AJ, KQ. You are beat.
Hand 3 Bet more on river.
Hand 4 I usually fold PF UTG w/ Axs, as played I would have bet flop for info. This is most likely a split.
Hand 5 This is a fold PF, however I would bet something on the river maybe even push???
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martindcx1e
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Originally Posted by Jager
Hand 5 This is a fold PF, however I would bet something on the river maybe even push???
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I was wondering about pushing the river too. Villain's line is really weird in that hand. I'm just confused.
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Jager
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Actually in Hand 5 I would have pushed turn. Any heart and you might be toast. Too scary for me I guess. I would be fine if I got a fold here.
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zenbitz
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1) Anyone like a turn check in hand 1? 3-way on that board I kinda want to showdown cheap.
2) I guess that's just a cooler on the turn.
3) when you hit your gin card, I think need to bet more. You have $44 behind and a pot of $10. Bet $10-11 on turn and a/i on the river is pot sized. Alternatively, keep turn bet small and overbet push river. I think I like pot/pot better, more likely to get a call from KX
4) PF is non standard at 6 max, but on a passive table it isn't horrible. Postflop is probably good, although BB looks like he has an 8. Worth a look up for metagame/split
5) is interesting. I think he has AX with A hearts, maybe a pair with a heart, but I don't think that until he checks river. Pushing the turn isn't bad either, especially if you have made some big plays already. I don't bet river in position here... I just think you are only getting called by a boat or bigger flush. I think he's either drawing or made a crying call on the turn.
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nutsinho
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1. standard, checking behind on the turn might be a little better
2. standard
3. go for more- 9 on the turn, 19 on river
4. fine
5. bet 15 more
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Renton
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the preflop call in the last hand is fine vs most players
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aislephive
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Hand 1: Looks standard.
Hand 2: Tough one, I dunno. I might shove flop or fold flop (or call re-evaluate turn). I think it's fine as played.
Hand 3: Bet larger on river is about it.
Hand 4: Don't get into a habit of limping this UTG, I would raise or fold. In LP after a couple limps I don't mind limping, but first in I don't like limping. I'd bet flop as played but check is fine, river is easy call and sometimes if I thought opponent was solid I'd raise to get him off a chop.
Hand 5: If you're going to make a marginal call like this preflop, you're going to have to be able to make these somewhat marginal river value bets. This isn't even very marginal either, I'd bet $25 or something, you really lose value by checking behind.
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Fnord
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Hand 1: Anyone like a turn check? 2 full-buys want to play with us on that flop, I'm thinking way ahead/behind and want to see the button bet our hand for us.
Hand 2: I'm all-in on the flop. If he can beat our hand, merry fucking christmas.
Hand 3: What are we putting him on? I'm thinking river shove, but this guy seems to be pretty terrible.
Hand 4: A common myth is that you should fold this hand pre-flop, but raise 56s.
Hand 5: Shove the river and I don't think it's even close.
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donkbee
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Hand 5: Shove the river and I don't think it's even close.
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Dammit, I suck
To the people who said that the preflop call in hand 5 was marginal ... is it really that bad versus someone who's been loose and raising a fair amount? If so, I will have to stop calling with stuff like that.
Thank you everyone.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fnord
Why poker fucks with our heads: it's the master that beats you for bringing in the paper, then gives you a milkbone for peeing on the carpet.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by courtiebee
To the people who said that the preflop call in hand 5 was marginal ... is it really that bad versus someone who's been loose and raising a fair amount? If so, I will have to stop calling with stuff like that.
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I added comments on your other hands.
High card value is vastly under-rated in 6 max, particularly against a loose SB steal. 1 pair is almost always going to be the best hand blind vs blind and 42s isn't going to get there.
Take all of that crap about domination and forget about it once the flop is dealt.
I'd much rather call that raise with K9s than 56s.
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