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Schiplt
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06-05-2008, 09:08 PM
Post subject: first days at 100nl
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Both hands are against relative unknowns. 25 or less hands, no reads. neither has shown signs of retardation yet.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($62.85)
Button ($94.30)
Hero ($131)
BB ($49.20)
UTG ($41.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with J , K .
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, BB calls $2.
Flop: ($6.50) 7 , Q , J (2 players)
Hero bets $4, BB calls $4.
Turn: ($14.50) K (2 players)
Hero
-can i b/f?-
2.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
CO ($13)
Hero ($100)
SB ($98)
BB ($104.95)
UTG ($99.60)
MP ($115.65)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , J .
UTG raises to $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, UTG calls $6.
Flop: ($17.50) 4 , 3 , J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12.
Turn: ($41.50) K (2 players)
SB bets $33, Hero
-villian tanked before making turn bet, and flop bet was obv kind of girlish-
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thizzSantaCruz
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b/f turn in hand 1
hand 2, eh its a shitty spot. I probably fold turn until I have some reads. and i don't mind the bet size on the flop, the board is dry so you want to string him along with a lot of his mediocre strength hands which make up a huge part of his calling range.
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Flopping quads and boats like its my job
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EzDuzIt
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hand 1: bet. also hes not really unknown you do know that he is half stacked. and if you have 25 hands you should know some stuff about him.
hand 2: bet flop harder. and then on turn i would probably tank and then shove. although that might change depending on what you knew about him from the 25 hands or w/e.
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EzDuzIt
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Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
and i don't mind the bet size on the flop, the board is dry so you want to string him along with a lot of his mediocre strength hands which make up a huge part of his calling range.
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hes not going to fold his draw or like 66 for a couple more dollars.
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will641
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1) bet the flop harder, like 5.5-6. bet the turn. i dont think im folding to a shove.
2)tbh, i dont know if im 3 betting here vs a full stack unknown. i certainly dont think its bad, but i wouldnt do it, and if i did it would be to $6. kind of gross turn spot. im kind of stuck between shoving and folding. i definitely think calling is your worst option. i err on the side of folding however, but im obv not too happy about the scenario.
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mixchange
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1) bet/fold or check/call is OK. You definitely don't want to call a shove here... at 100nl this is the flush if someone shoves pretty much everytime
2) I think you can fold, he had a Kx flushdraw
if you notice villain betting out a lot of scarecards call him down but for the most part you can follow opponents bets of strength as signs of a strength of their hand.. until opponent shows you a reason to sniff out BS
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nutsinho
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1. yes
2. easy shove
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Schiplt
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yeah i butchered hand 1, committing myself with a PSB. got smoked by a floosh. and hand 2 I shoved and dude called with a FD. word.
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kmind
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you are "schip it" at FTP obv., right?
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Schiplt
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Numbr2intheWorld
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1. i agree
2. why shove? My first thought says call or fold...
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Massimo
2. why shove? My first thought says call or fold...
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The turn bet is pretty FoS.
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EzDuzIt
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Originally Posted by Massimo
2. why shove? My first thought says call or fold...
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well if he has a draw we wanna get it in now and i think he has one a lot. unless you plan on folding a lot of rivers it seems better to get it in now.
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griffey24
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Hand 1 - Easy b/f here... definitely don't check
Hand 2 - I flat this turn and re-evaluate on river. I don't think I'd ever shove here... unless I knew villain was a donk or something.
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