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Old 01-29-2008, 04:22 AM     Post subject: A few tough river spots, 5/10 #1 (permalink)  
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hand 1
-Villain is 26/11/2 and has been playing pretty poorly today. He's been calling down people pretty light and losing
-He's been calling a lot of my PF raises and calling my barrels, but hasn't raised me much yet but is probably getting sick of me, since I've stacked him a couple times and is prob just out to get me
-villain also hasn't 3-bet me once yet
-turn bet is a block with the intention of folding to a raise from AQ/AJ/33

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Blinds: $5/$10
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1130
UTG+1: $965
Hero: $2031.75
Button: $2299.75
SB: $970
BB: $2027

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with
2 folds, Hero raises to $40, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: ($125, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $90, Button raises to $180, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: ($485, 2 players)
Hero bets $290, Button calls.

River: ($1065, 2 players)
Hero bets $680, Button raises all-in $1789.75, Hero facing $840 call....


Hand 2
-villain has been running 21/17 today and is one of the better/trickier tagg regs. I played in two separate sessions today, and in my earlier session he saw me spewing bluffing a lot and I'm not sure if he thinks I'm still playing spewy in this session
-I have been 3-betting him non-stop at this table. The first few times he folded OOP but the last 3 times he has called OOP. One of the hands he showed down QTsuited OOP
-a previous hand I had AJ.. on an A high board... flop went chk/chk, turn he check called my bet.. and river brought runner flush and he check raised me hard and I folded

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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1222
UTG+1: $1747
CO: $965
Hero: $1474
SB: $2230.75
BB: $1020

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $35, CO folds, Hero raises to $108, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: ($231, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $190, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: ($611, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

River: ($611, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $400, UTG+1 raises to $1090, Hero??
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:01 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: lol call river ofc, line is kind of weird though, I'd rather 3 bet the flop.

Hand 2: I'd bet turn, not sure about river if i bet turn. As played fold.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:03 AM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1 is an obv call. I dont mind not 3betting the flop given description of villain.

hand 2 i fold.
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Old 01-29-2008, 01:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hmm this is interesting. Sometimes I feel like my train of thought is the opposite of a lot of people on here!

The way I was leaning in both of these hands was the opposite of both stated so far. In hand 1, that river hit my range straight in the face and he's still raising big. I feel like I'm also most likely calling for at best a split against someone who hasn't shown that much aggro play/bluffing.

I lean towards calling hand 1 only because i can't see many hands with a king in his range.

Hand 2, however, this board is horrible for such a big part of my range and villain knows this. Even IF I spiked my ace river he knows that I can't like a c/r too much on this board. Furthermore, I really can't see him NOT c/r'ing the flop with any hand with a 6 in it (66,56,67,68).. and now him trying to rep a 6 seems odd to me.

The question is whether or not he would value c/r better two pairs or sets in this spot or just c/c with those hands.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:21 PM #5 (permalink)  
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1: What hand with two hearts but no T, J or Q would call pre and minraise flop? AhKh for royal flush? Minraise and even call pre with Ah9h seems strange. With good odds, this is instacall.

If the minraise was a total bluff with 6h7h or similar, then villain got incredibly lucky to hit runner flush when you hit runner straight (catching perfect/perfect).

2: I think he can raise any set for value even though it's thin but a six isn't really in YOUR range. All five possible sets are in his range. I also don't think 66,56,67,68 are very obvious check raises on the flop. I would probably c/c flop against most opponents with that. I'm folding.
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