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Old 08-20-2010, 06:07 PM     Post subject: Few hands. #1 (permalink)  
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In an effort to rededicate myself to poker, gonna try to consistently post some hands from the previous day before i start a new session.

Hands are in Euros, play is generally a bit more spewy than in stars/Tilt games. I don't think people make many big folds (this is prob case everywhere) and most of the good regs are stations post and aggro pre.

Hand 1 :

Small sample size but villain was aggro when it was just shorthanded and now that table has broke he's been reraising light over the first 20 hands or so. He was playing something like 31/28 15% 3-bet when it was 3-4 handed.

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Hero (BB) ($409.60)
SB ($417.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, K
SB bets $10, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24) 3, Q, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $18, Hero raises $56, SB calls $38

Turn: ($136) K (2 players)
Hero bets $88, SB calls $88

River: ($312) 6 (2 players)
Hero shoves for value or c/folds?




Hand 2 :

Same villain as in hand 1. He's still playing aggro, seems to be running hot. How bad is this bluff?

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MP ($652.50)
Button ($1051.89)
SB ($550.90)
Hero (BB) ($617.70)
UTG ($400)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 4
UTG bets $14, 3 folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($30) 3, 7, K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $25, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($80) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $58, Hero raises $136, UTG calls $78

River: ($352) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $176, but meant to shove (sigh?)


Hand 3 :

Simple hand. Villain is a winning reg. Runs around 32/30 calls 25% of 3-bets. Has a high flop and turn AF. Any other way to play this (either than not squeeze pre which in a vacuum is obviously bad).


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SB ($826.98)
Hero (BB) ($759.43)
UTG ($577.47)
MP ($421.50)
Button ($222.74)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, A
UTG bets $12, 2 folds, SB calls $10, Hero raises $44, UTG calls $36, 1 fold

Flop: ($108) 2, 3, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $64, UTG calls $64

Turn: ($236) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $132, UTG raises $465.47 (All-In), Hero didn't expect him to shove but can never call?
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:54 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) Aren't you ip how can you c/f? Without more info I'd prob just check back.

2) I'd rather just c/r the flop and barrel appropriate turns tbh.

3) I wouldn't bet turn no idea what to do now.



 
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 - I'd shove, you're repping such a thin value range i think you'll get looked up light here, I assume his range consists of more made hands than missed draws, as a lot of aggro regs will shove the turn with draws here a relatively high % of the time in order to win the battle of the draws/air so to speak.

Hand 2 - meh, once your turn c/r gets called, I don't think there are many hands folding the river except the occasional hearts.

Hand 3 - I don't really see him having much in his range that can bluff here, that being said, what were your reasons for betting the turn?
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Meeloche, i'm OOP in hand 1 (BB it's HU).

Toad on the turn in hand 3 I think it's c/fold or b/fold. I think if I bet he can sometimes call with some medium pairs and I can also bluff him off JJ/QQ on the river as I don't think he's shoving here all that much if he's not raising the flop to get it in.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:51 PM #5 (permalink)  
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hand 1: jam

hand 2: c/ring flop is fine as is c/cing, as played fold, bad spot to bluff.

hand 3: Not a good squeeze spot, as played call.
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 1) I would either b/f small/tiny or c/f. Probably bet.

2) I would only flat pre vs a fish. I like the flop c/c but my plan would be to bet river when turn is checked through. When he bets this turn you should just give up imo.

3) Yeah pre is fine. I usually make it a little bigger oop though. Postflop I would just bet flop/turn and shove river, probably not folding at any point on this board.
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 Hand 1) I'd probably bet like 165 or something. I don't hate a c/f though. I think he can call down river with most Qx hands.

Hand 2) I don't know why you would bluff in a spot, where a bluff reps so little? Agree with P4's about c/c with the intention of betting river when turn checks through.

Hand 3) I think you're playing too fast vs utg ranges, from the hands you're showing. The squeezes to begin with (just squeeze in spots where ppl are at least likely to be very light. Even SB in this spot can be very strong). Post-flop, I would play it more cautiously vs an utg range, possible c/re-eval turn.
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 1) shove, he can call with many worse hands given Bossregs spewyness

2) I like it or hate it depending on what happened in hand 1 (if this is after). Once you take this line though I would shove river most of the time. As griffey stated though, this line sucks since his UTG range is way stronger, but I wouldn't mind it if he was LP. I guess I'm saying c/f turn here.

3)Im flatting this pre. What's his 4bet here? Whats his sn? As played call and hope he has teh spades.
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Hand 3 is vs Filter (with that weird euro sign)
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 2 is so bad. flop float is ok, id rather raise. The 7 is a rly good turn for u but not because u get to c/r but rather because he will give up w his air very often. CRing turn with 78 seems ridic bad anyway so i don't kno why you would try to bluff in that manner. Definitely c/f riv.
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yeah 2 is pretty amazingly horrible. it's actually pretty encouraging that some of my losses are tilt.
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 hand 1)
- I would shove for sure, because you are repping so little + FD missed, so he can hero call a lot

hand 2)
- I think if he bets this turn, he is probably not folding - so I would fold

hand 3)
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I think if I bet he can sometimes call with some medium pairs and I can also bluff him off JJ/QQ on the river as I don't think he's shoving here all that much if he's not raising the flop to get it in.
- so I think you can bet something like 80 - mid pairs can easily call you and you would have better stack size for river shove
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