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mixchange
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05-29-2008, 11:01 PM
Post subject: Felt 1010 on low board vs. unknown?
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($357.25)
Hero ($203)
MP ($291.95)
CO ($79.85)
Button ($236.35)
SB ($41.05)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with T , T .
Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, BB calls $6.
Flop: ($17) 3, 2 , 2 (2 players)
BB bets $16, Hero raises to $48, BB raises to $80, Hero ??
Villain knows my position here and likely range as an unknown utg to him. I don't have many hands on him, 15. So far very active, 50% of hands. Get it in vs. unknown? Seems like a fold given my UTG range, but I'm really only behind one, maybe two hands in his range (33 and perhaps he flat calls JJ).
I have a problem though of leaking too much in non showdown pots in 200nl to more aggro players. I know I need to make more stands, but I'm not always sure when. Seems like he could do this with 66-99 and 45, maybe ax but seems less likely
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EzDuzIt
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get it in
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you thinking yeti thoery?
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EzDuzIt
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probably not that but its a bluff sometimes i guess.
but against an unknown whos been donkish so far i think, you said 50% of hands is he like 50/0 over that or 50/50?
either way if i dont know him as a reg i would expect him to get it in worse here a lot like all pps below and like 54.
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Galapogos
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How aggro is he post flop? I don't like raising the flop unless you know he overvalues his hands.
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Originally Posted by sauce123
I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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ATOTHEC101
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yeah i think you can get in in here as hed expect you to raise his donkbet alot and the minreraise looks like hes making an infamous donkish 'feeler bet' except in reraise form not wanting to let his pair 44-99 go. I also doubt hed pot the flop with 33 here going for a checkraise on the flop or turn and if he did donk bet with it his bet would be alot smaller encouraging the raise. Therefore the only hands your worried about are jj and occasionally a slow played big pair. Also if hes donkish enough he may have called wit a raggy ace flopping a pair of 3s or gutshot and is getting feisty with them.
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Silly String
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I'd really like this better if the flush draw were up on the board. Against an unknown this is a stack job, but it seems like I almost always run into trips in that spot. Another 15-20 hands of 50VPIP on your read and I fold this no problem. I also wonder if he contemplates your range?
P.S. Why did you raise the flop so much? Draws aren't that prevelant in his range? I might go for a bit more of a value raise, or less than pot sized if you want 44+ to come along.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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will641
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Originally Posted by Silly String
P.S. Why did you raise the flop so much? Draws aren't that prevelant in his range? I might go for a bit more of a value raise, or less than pot sized if you want 44+ to come along.
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its a 3x raise.
i get it in. basically were scared of 22/33/JJ. i really doubt hes going to be playing the nuts this fast here. his donk lead indicates mid pp.
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Silly String
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Yeah, I think a smaller raise(less than a pot sized raise) keeps lower PPs in the pot more often rather than blowing them out, but whatevs. That might be nit-picky.
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Playing live . . . thanks alot Bin Laden.
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mixchange
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Originally Posted by Galapogos
How aggro is he post flop? I don't like raising the flop unless you know he overvalues his hands.
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as I said I only had 15 hands on him. Worthless.
You have to reraise this flop strong, you get value from lower PP (some) and we prevent getting sucked out on. We're ahead most of the time here. A 2x raise and many people will float AK.
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