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Old 01-27-2010, 03:43 PM     Post subject: FD facing reraise on low flop #1 (permalink)  
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Playing at Cake so no stats on him.. I just moved up to 200nl so I don't have notes either. He hasn't done anything crazy or weird yet this session.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 5
4 folds, SB bets $6, Hero calls $5

Flop: ($14) J, 4, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero raises $28, SB raises $59, Hero ???

What is he 3betting with in this spot?
If its always strong then I should call, if I think sometimes he's bluffing then shove?
do you play differently preflop?
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Old 01-27-2010, 05:53 PM #2 (permalink)  
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If this wasn't a blind war, i think villain's range would almost always be sets so I guess I would just take the odds and call, but since this is a blind war and villain can have worse draws and 1 pair type hands (his line still screams set though), you have some if not a lot of fold equity so I think shoving is best here.
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I shovaments vs that retardly sized raise and expect to get a fold enough to be profitable. With no read, I'm not putting myself in an ultra shitty position on the turn if I have any FE at all.
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 If I'm raising this flop it's always with the intention of jamming over a 3bet. If I was going to be confused when 3bet I'd just flat in the first place.

As it stands, we dominate a lot of his hands he might be quite happy with here (89cc, 9Tcc, 56cc, KQcc), and are rarely in too bad shape.
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 would rather have A3cc but w/e we have the best hand a lot
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'd rather have 7s7h here
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:38 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 You can really go either way here, especially in position. I doubt he's folding anything he has even when the flush hits (besides air). If you just have a real strong feeling from this guy that he isnt bluffing just flat.
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Old 01-29-2010, 01:33 AM #8 (permalink)  
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If I flat because I think he's strong how do I play turn?

on the flop...

Board: Jc 4c 7s
Hand 0: 27.374% { Ac5c }
Hand 1: 72.626% { JJ, 77, 44 }


blank turn...

Board: Jc 4c 7s 2h
Hand 0: 22.727% { Ac5c }
Hand 1: 77.273% { JJ, 77, 44 }


effective stack left would be 140bb, pot around 130.

so best move is to call flop, fold to turn shove if we miss?
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Old 01-29-2010, 02:29 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 he doesnt just have JJ, 77 and 44, that would be insanely tight range.

But anyway, if you call the flop its because you dont think he's bluffing ever so you definitely do not call a turn shove
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