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euphoricism

09-13-2006, 01:13 AM Post subject: Faster? Harder?

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I potted every street -- can I go harder? Is it feasible to pot and a half the turn? This is a great board for my hidden straight. River push, or valuebet? A push would be 2x flop, and we're both full stacked.

***** Hand History for Game 5158375219 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, September 12, 20:59:50 ET 2006
Table Table 108058 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: ashaw2004 ( $106.27 )
Seat 4: jack177 ( $73.42 )
Seat 6: Tjerok ( $78.65 )
Seat 1: xDreamWeaver ( $49.75 )
Seat 2: babascript ( $51.61 )
Seat 5: Fortysixandtwo ( $0 )
Tjerok posts small blind [$0.25].
xDreamWeaver posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to xDreamWeaver [

]
babascript calls [$0.50].
ashaw2004 folds.
jack177 calls [$0.50].
Tjerok folds.
xDreamWeaver checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [

]
>You have options at Table 107990 Table!.
xDreamWeaver bets [$2].
babascript calls [$2].
>You have options at Table 108101 Table!.
jack177 calls [$2].
** Dealing Turn ** [ :Ks: ]
xDreamWeaver bets [$7].
babascript calls [$7].
>You have options at Table 109800 Table!.
jack177 folds.
** Dealing River ** [ :Jd: ]
>You have options at Table 108101 Table!.
xDreamWeaver bets [$20]...

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andy-akb

09-13-2006, 01:40 AM

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In an unraised pot, I dont mind pot-pot, on that river Im making a value bet that a raise will essentially have push all in over.

I dont like a push simply because its going to scare away a lot of hands and I dont see any reads posted so we dont know what he could have [we could guess] or what he would call with [again only guesses]. Just make a value bet here, I dont htink this is the spot for an overbet push and betting bigger than the pot on the earlier streets is going way too aggressive without reads.

dan

09-13-2006, 03:30 AM

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i like the way you played this on all streets, anyone like a river c/r if the villain isnt uber passive? he played it like he is drawing...thoughts yo?

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09-13-2006, 03:41 AM

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I think you could overpot the turn but overbetting the river is bad. Think of what he has. He doesn't have a set, he likely doesn't have 2p unless it's KJhh. Also very unlikely he has a K here, maybe he backed into a pair with Jxhh. So his hand we can conclude is likely very very weak and likely a busted draw with hearts or a lone 6 it sure isn't enough to get value out of a river push. As the above poster said, a river check is good and much better than an overbet.

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09-13-2006, 03:47 AM

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over bet the flop. the rest is easier. the overbet on flop sometimes gets worse hands to call.

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09-13-2006, 04:36 AM

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A lot of poeple at lower stakes will call a slight overbet when the pot is small so you could probably get away with it on the flop. I think you played it fine though.

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09-13-2006, 04:37 AM

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i dont mind a push on the river either. if he hit 2pr he might just pay you off. otherwise he missed his draw.

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euphoricism

09-13-2006, 01:43 PM

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I figure exactly like you, terry. If he's got enough of a hand at this point to call a valuebet (which is half his stack), he'll probably call an AI too -- if he doesnt, he missed his draw and I could bet $1 and he'd fold.

Seemed like a missed opportunity when he flipped over AA. Slowplay to win, right?

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