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Silly String
Old 12-06-2007, 09:20 PM     Post subject: Extraction #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is aggro at 33/28/4.5, earlier he 3 bet me with AA vs my KK 170BB deep. That is how he built much of his stack. He has also 3bet me another time and I folded to his c-bet on a J high board with my lowPP. What line do I take to maximize extraction here? I want to get as much money as possible in on the flop so a turn doesn't suckout on me or kill my action.

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CO ($72.80)
Button ($14.35)
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4, 4.
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, SB raises to $7.5, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.50.

Flop: ($15.50) 5, 4, J (2 players)
SB bets $10.5, [color=#CC3333]Hero ???
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Old 12-06-2007, 09:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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dont get tricky, shove
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Old 12-07-2007, 07:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I just realized this hand was vs our own will641. Anyway, that is what I did and when he folded I felt like maybe I could have squeezed more value out of him. I guess that would be getting too greedy, huh? I would get a caller here from AA/KK & possible AK with a club, right?

Hey will641, what did you have here? I was still burning about the 340BB pot I lost to your Rockets. Damn Cowboys. . .
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Old 12-07-2007, 08:03 PM #4 (permalink)  
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if you were 200bb deep I'd say to raise a normal amount like 30-35 or so. But with your stack and the fact you're only about a 70% favorite if he has a high club, i'd just shove yea.
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:53 PM #5 (permalink)  
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it took me a little bit to find this hand since there was not showdown, but i had AA with no club.
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Old 12-07-2007, 09:55 PM #6 (permalink)  
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it took me a little bit to find this hand since there was not showdown, but i had AA with no club.
Damn my best guess was AA with a club given your bet size.
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Old 12-07-2007, 10:33 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd raise $28 and then get it in on the turn no matter what drops.
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Old 12-07-2007, 10:55 PM #8 (permalink)  
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put him to a decision
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Old 12-07-2007, 11:24 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Well, it's pretty nitty folding ur aces there given history i think.
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Old 12-08-2007, 10:22 AM #10 (permalink)  
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it took me a little bit to find this hand since there was not showdown, but i had AA with no club.
Make your RR a touch bigger pf. like $9.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:16 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I'd raise $28 and then get it in on the turn no matter what drops.
I would think you're getting a lot of money in bad when that 4th club drops on the turn. You're only getting called by better hands & stand to lose 80% of the time.
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Old 12-08-2007, 02:47 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Damn my best guess was AA with a club given your bet size.
Danny, would you expand on this. AA/KK no club would bet more, yes?
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