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Old 06-19-2006, 02:45 AM     Post subject: Eupho needs some guidelines. #1 (permalink)  
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so I've lost about 9 buyins between today and yesterday when I hold a flush. Either to a boat, or to a higher flush. Its been f'n nasty.

Without giving specific hand histories, which would all look like bad beat posts, can someone outline some guidelines for playing flushes and flush draws?
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Old 06-19-2006, 03:27 AM #2 (permalink)  
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post some HH's anyways, it will help
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:05 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Be more careful when you have low suited connectors and don't go all the way with your low flush?
 
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Old 06-19-2006, 05:27 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Yeah, if you hold low flush, you have to be really careful..."he can't be holding 2 hearts if I am...WTF???? A9 hearts!!!1111!1!!" Of course, be extremely careful when the fourth card of a suit falls.

I personally like Ax sooted and JT sooted, and occasionally Kx sooted if I get good odds on the PF limp. I am not very good at playing SCs, so low flushes don't bite me as often as I dump them until I improve my postflop play to the point where I don't go broke on them.
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Watch out in limped pots.. In raised pots your lower flush is usually good.
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Right, ok, lesson definitely learned. In a place where everyone is playing Axs for a raise (50NL), our flush value has to be diminished.

how are we playing a situation where it is fairly multiway, 3-4ish handed, we're OOP and we flop a pretty strong draw -- FD, SD, TopPair+FD, etc etc. Assume no reads, or assume our opponents just suck. I realize there are just too many variables to really nail down, but "in general"

Donk it? Thats what we'd do in LHE. Folding equity + big draw = pump. I've been leading the flop with a pot sized bet. But in NL, I'm not so confident firing two pot-sized barrels without much of a hand. Depending on his stack I often get reraised for like 6 more BB, and well, pots big, call. I don't think I've won one yet. ;p

I guess I just have to plug away at my learning curve.

Who was the moron who said learning LHE first would help in NL? So far it has just made me: lose my ass in flush over flush situations, lose my ass with top pair, call down too much, and take AKo too far. Well shit, surprised I ain't broke.
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Also, I don't give shortstacks credit for hands. Then I give them money.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:39 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Who was the moron who said learning LHE first would help in NL?
*raises hand*

Do one or more of the following until you learn some big bet concepts:
o Play full ring
o Buy-in short
o Move down to $25 or $10
 
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Old 06-20-2006, 11:04 AM #9 (permalink)  
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What advantage does buying in short give? Is it for loss-limiting purposes? Because I'm not really losing, just not really winning. About break even, though I think Im down one or two buyins.

I'm playing way overbankrolled for the 50NL game, so moving down is.. well.. not what I want to do.

Full ring is an option.
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Old 06-20-2006, 08:17 PM #10 (permalink)  
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What advantage does buying in short give?
You no longer have reverse-implied-odds problems with hands you're used to playing very aggressivly. Deciding when you should play or threaten to play a big pot is going to be a growth area for you for some time to come.
 
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