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Old 07-17-2008, 09:38 PM     Post subject: Dumps these AA's or keep? AI pots #1 (permalink)  
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SB ($198)
Hero ($633.30)
UTG ($203)
MP ($197)
CO ($345.80)
Button ($240.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A.
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Button calls $2, SB completes, Hero raises to $18, UTG calls $16, Button calls $16, SB folds.

Flop: ($58) 4, T, 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $40, UTG calls $40, Button raises to $80, Hero calls $40, UTG folds.

Turn: ($258) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($258) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $142.9 (All-In), Hero calls $142.90 ?!?!?


his line is a set or air... I like calling when I don't get it all in on the flop more for some reason in this spot. lets villain bluff

I realize my line can look like air pf and on flop... since he bluffs enough here i think i have to call...villains that suck don't know what agood bluff line is, so I tend to call screwball shit like this

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UTG ($299.40)
MP ($100.75)
CO ($237)
Hero ($264)
SB ($198)
BB ($264.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K.
UTG raises to $6, 1 fold, CO calls $6, Hero raises to $28, 2 folds, UTG folds, CO calls $22.

Flop: ($65) T, Q, 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $48, CO raises to $206, Hero ??

he's getting bad set odds so stack off every time regardless? could be AQ I guess, never seen him 3bet... but 1010/QQ seem most likely. OK to fold, or go for it?

thoughts?
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Old 07-17-2008, 09:42 PM #2 (permalink)  
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hand 1:hes repping just 44 and 22 that have you beat so id definitely 4 bet shove this on flop, if he has you beat pay the man.

hand 2: too man combo draws to fold here though i wouldnt be surprised if he had qq,1010,88. Standard felt.
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 hand 1: I can see AT doing this, your check on the turn looks weak, plus he coulda been afraid of the J, but your check on the river giving him enough confidence to try to bluff you off.

hand2: if CO was a tagg preflop, I could see this easily being a set as he's called 2 PFR raises, hard to see a pf taggy V calling with AQ or KQ here twice. vs a station for sure there's tons of AQ/KQ/QJ/QT combo's, who's married to there hand now
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 hand 1: prob fold. I like punching it in on the flop though. So many hands beat you by the river. If you're gonna call, do it bc he might be valuetowning you with something worse (not sure what), not bc he has set or air (i disagree with that). your hand is pretty well defined at this point, at least to me.

hand 2: you're in a far better situation to tell what to do here. What does he cc in position with then call a 3-bet oop with after the original raiser folds? i'd normally get it in, but like I said, it's far from unheard of to make a fold in these kind of spots.

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he's getting bad set odds so stack off every time regardless?
I've touched on this before, but this logic is lolbad. Our goal isn't to be +EV, it's to maximize expectation.
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