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Rockymv
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07-25-2006, 06:06 AM
Post subject: Draws facing action
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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I think I've identified a hole in my game. I've been trying to play my draws more aggressively, but every time someone plays back at me, the only thing I can think of is pushing. How should I be playing these hands?
1 - Villian is 18/13
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($130.49)
MP ($77)
CO ($188.60)
Button ($126.50)
Hero ($102.05)
BB ($83.09)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , A . Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises to $3, 1 fold, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $2.50, 1 fold.
Flop: ($10) T , 9 , 8 (3 players)
Hero bets $7, UTG calls $7, CO raises to $36, Hero calls $92.05 (All-In), UTG folds, CO calls $63.05.
Turn: ($215.10) K (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($215.10) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $215.10
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2 - Villian is 24/16. I'm ok with this hand because I'm pretty sure villian has AA/KK.
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($115.95)
Hero ($126.55)
Button ($76.21)
SB ($166.40)
BB ($111.75)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 5 , 6 . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG raises to $3.5, Hero calls $3.50, 3 folds.
Flop: ($8.50) 6 , 4 , Q (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero raises to $15, UTG raises to $58.5, Hero calls $108.05 (All-In), UTG calls $53.95 (All-In).
Turn: ($244) A (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($244) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $244
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3 - Villian is 26/9
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB ($165.70)
UTG ($93.30)
Hero ($99)
CO ($32.10)
Button ($201.40)
SB ($39.83)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 , J . SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $3.50, 1 fold.
Flop: ($9) 6 , Q , K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $35.83 (All-In), Hero calls $29.83.
Turn: ($80.66) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($80.66) J (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $80.66
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4 - Villian is 37/12
ayers, 2 all-in)[/color]Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
UTG ($62.24)
MP ($127.71)
Button ($31.80)
Hero ($87)
BB ($48.13)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 4 , J . Hero posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, Button calls $1, Hero (poster) completes, BB checks.
Flop: ($3) 4 , J , A (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB calls $2.50, Button folds.
Turn: ($8) K (2 players)
Hero bets $7, BB raises to $24, Hero calls $76.50 (All-In), BB calls $20.63 (All-In).
River: ($136.13) 3 [color=#0000FF](2 pl
Final Pot: $136.13
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gabe
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5- fold to the raise on turn usually unless they are really bad
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aislephive
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4-of-a-Kind
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All of these seem fine.
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andy-akb
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1) Playing draws OOP sucks. Anyways, 18/13 is fairly TAGG and so the villain must have some idea of what he is doing and is probably decent. He could have a wide range preflop, but on the flop there is a lot of action. The SB [hero] who cold called a raise PF out of the blinds lead the flop, the PFRer called that bet and then the action is to the CO. what hands do we think he is raising here that he would 3bet preflop? He is aggressive enough that he is most likely 3betting JJ+ preflop. It could be JJ, but I have stats similar to his and would typically 3bet from the co depending on the UTG raiser, I wouldnt give a ton of weight to that hand. A set is definitely possible and so is a straight or two pair if he is calling with SCs. I dont think we are ahead enough to push and I probably just fold this one
2) If you put him on KK+ then this is fine
3) Against a shortstack that isnt a maniac this is fairly close and I think its marginal either way.
4) Seems fine
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Rockymv
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Full House
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
1) Playing draws OOP sucks. Anyways, 18/13 is fairly TAGG and so the villain must have some idea of what he is doing and is probably decent. He could have a wide range preflop, but on the flop there is a lot of action. The SB [hero] who cold called a raise PF out of the blinds lead the flop, the PFRer called that bet and then the action is to the CO. what hands do we think he is raising here that he would 3bet preflop? He is aggressive enough that he is most likely 3betting JJ+ preflop. It could be JJ, but I have stats similar to his and would typically 3bet from the co depending on the UTG raiser, I wouldnt give a ton of weight to that hand. A set is definitely possible and so is a straight or two pair if he is calling with SCs. I dont think we are ahead enough to push and I probably just fold this on
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I agree with your analysis. Should I have played it more passively due to the flop texture?
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