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Old 06-13-2006, 06:42 PM     Post subject: Dragging a $1K pot with 9 high (low content) #1 (permalink)  
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MP ($396.15)
CO ($116.10)
Hero ($680.90)
SB ($94.75)
BB ($428.20)
UTG ($286.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 8.
1 fold, MP calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, MP calls $12.

Flop: ($38) 6, 6, 7 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $24, MP raises to $48, Hero raises to $150, MP calls $102.

Turn: ($338) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $514.9 (All-In), MP calls $230.15 (All-In).

River: ($1083.05) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $1083.05

Results in white below:
MP has 5c 4h (one pair, sixes).
Hero has 9c 8c (one pair, sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $1083.05.
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:44 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I don't like turn push. I don't think you have very much fold equity at all. I'd make a bigger raise on the flop, possibly push.

Edit: or maybe a smaller flop 3-bet like to 120, so that you have about a psb left on the turn should he just call.
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:47 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I don't like turn push. I don't think you have very much fold equity at all. I'd make a bigger raise on the flop, possibly push.

Edit: or maybe a smaller flop 3-bet like to 120, so that you have about a psb left on the turn should he just call.
I was trying to protect my hand by giving him bad odds to call with a pair draw.
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Old 06-14-2006, 05:55 AM #8 (permalink)  
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flop play is ok but i like to check the turn.
In answer to your question... it depends...
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Old 06-14-2006, 01:01 PM #9 (permalink)  

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This is a monster drawing hand I long for on the flop. I generally always push these on the flop to any aggression. My reasoning: 2 cards to come I am still a favorite to win. Pushing on the turn is scary to me. I am not saying I am right, just how I respond to these hands.

Anyone know any different? i.e. the best overall long term play with a hand that draws to 14+ outs on the flop?
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Old 06-14-2006, 04:48 PM #10 (permalink)  
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This is a monster drawing hand I long for on the flop. I generally always push these on the flop to any aggression. My reasoning: 2 cards to come I am still a favorite to win. Pushing on the turn is scary to me. I am not saying I am right, just how I respond to these hands.

Anyone know any different? i.e. the best overall long term play with a hand that draws to 14+ outs on the flop?
you arent a favorite against a 6, which is why you dont want to reraise that flop.

the flop play is bad without a read, but im assuming you had one
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you arent a favorite against a 6, which is why you dont want to reraise that flop
I am not so sure about that.. A 67 would give you cause for much concern, but a lone 6? Who would normally call a preflop raise with a 6 only? I would still push the flop. If he happened to have 67, well, then I just paid him off.

But I do agree, certain reads may make me change my mind. But I still would have the Flop push as standard play unless some read really changed my mind.
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I am not so sure about that.. A 67 would give you cause for much concern, but a lone 6? Who would normally call a preflop raise with a 6 only? I would still push the flop. If he happened to have 67, well, then I just paid him off.
Just a little math intervention

My hand: 8c 9c
Opp: As 6s
board: 6c 6d 7c

My chance to win: 43.2%
Opp chance to win: 56.8%

So you're not ahead of a 6, so what hands that you beat call the push?
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