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Old 03-06-2008, 10:44 PM     Post subject: double barrel turned to TPTK #1 (permalink)  
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villain here is kind of a crappy reg that calls too much 25/16/3. i suspect hes floating flop a lot. the river here is very tricky, and i think you could probably make an argument for a lot of moves here.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q.
Hero raises to $8, MP calls $8, 3 folds.

Flop: ($19) 2, 5, J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, MP calls $14.

Turn: ($47) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $33, MP calls $33.

River: ($113) Q (2 players)
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Old 03-06-2008, 10:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd bet it for value and fold to a shove since he prefers just calling and seems cautious and be likely to call the turn with a flush and try to get paid on the river.
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Old 03-07-2008, 12:11 AM #4 (permalink)  
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$74 for value. Sometimes I would just push though against certain opponents.
 
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Old 03-07-2008, 12:27 AM #5 (permalink)  
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$74 for value. Sometimes I would just push though against certain opponents.
doesnt shoving kind of turn it into a bluff?
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Old 03-07-2008, 12:44 AM #6 (permalink)  
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best option seems like b/f.
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Doesnt he like always have AJ or KJ here? I think Im probably value betting river here?

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Old 03-07-2008, 03:39 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Old 03-07-2008, 07:17 AM #9 (permalink)  
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River bet is essentially your third barrel, except you have the goods now. If he has you bluffing, he calls and you have a good chance to be seeing AJ or KJ like jason suggests.
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Old 03-07-2008, 02:29 PM #10 (permalink)  
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i'd just pot it cause it's what he most likely sees a triple barrel.

I don't think range merging is that important here cause i don't know that you shove here as a bluff anyway. Nor do you really have to range merge with little history against 200NL regs. Maybe if you had a more spewy aggro image you would shove.
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Old 03-07-2008, 03:15 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I think a push will only get called by stronger hands unless there is some kind of history here other than villain calls too much.
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Whatever he bet, we are getting like 3:1 on a push so b/f is dumb. I would pot it, it just looks really bluffy.
 
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Old 03-07-2008, 04:58 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 03-07-2008, 05:28 PM #15 (permalink)  
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I think the turn is a pretty bad card to double. Hits all the flush draw end of his range and 23.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:24 PM #17 (permalink)  
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turn is super standard double, he called mp vs utg open, he has like 66-TT a ridic amount of the time, river i bet like 87 and i wouldnt expect anyone at 1/2 to be capable of turning a weak made hand into a bluff here, so obv b/f, but at higher levels id prolly go ahead and call a shove also
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I think the turn is a pretty bad card to double. Hits all the flush draw end of his range and 23.
But isn't he potting us off with ATC here? We have equity but we have ace high.
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Old 03-07-2008, 06:53 PM #19 (permalink)  
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I think you should open fold
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