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Old 03-17-2006, 02:58 AM     Post subject: Don't try to outsmart an idiot in poker. #1 (permalink)  
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The results aren't shown here, but villain called with A-Q (?). Evidently $80 is not too much when all you can beat is a bluff.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, J. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero calls $2, 3 folds, SB (poster) raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($10) 8, T, J (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $8, SB calls $6.

Turn: ($26) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($46) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero raises to $100, SB calls $80.

Final Pot: $246
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Old 03-17-2006, 02:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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villain shows a queen. next.
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Old 03-17-2006, 07:52 AM     Post subject: Re: Don't try to outsmart an idiot in poker. #3 (permalink)  
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Evidently $80 is not too much when all you can beat is a bluff.
Or a maniac completely overplaying 2 pair.

To him, he has the best hand and is trying to milk you for what he can get.

You gave it to him.
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Old 03-17-2006, 01:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Even if the river is 8s, he's probably not laying it down. This isn't a good spot for a move. He called your flop raise and still led out 4th and 5th. How do you know he doesn't have a boat himself?
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:51 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Trying to put moves on complete idiots has been my biggest leak by far. This board is a pretty tough place to pull a move agianst most people who will call hoping for a split. It seems impossible to get people to fold overpairs let alone one card 8th nut OMG DUDE STR8!!'s
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Old 03-18-2006, 11:46 AM     Post subject: Re: Don't try to outsmart an idiot in poker. #6 (permalink)  
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Your donk-speak translation skills need some tuning.

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9, J. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero calls $2, 3 folds, SB (poster) raises to $3 (I have 2 pretty good cards, no clue about big bet poker and think I'm raising for value), 1 fold, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($10) 8, T, J (2 players)
SB bets $2 (I still suck and probably don't have much), Hero raises to $8, SB calls $6 (I refuse to fold anything with a chance, particularly with cards to come).

Turn: ($26) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $10 (I probably improved, although I'm donkish enough that you never really can be sure), Hero calls $10.

River: ($46) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $20 (I mean it, this is a pretty strong value bet from a guy who lead $2 on the flop)
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Old 03-18-2006, 05:13 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Looking back at this hand, this was somewhat of an absurd bluff on my part. It's probably not a good idea to attempt to bluff someone off a straight, especially a loose passive player, since you'll usually have to risk an amount grossly disproportionate to what you expect to win (if it's even possible to win).
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Old 03-18-2006, 09:48 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Ok, I have to ask. So be nice to me. What makes you think he doesnt have 88, giving him four 8's?
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