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Old 11-27-2007, 05:19 PM     Post subject: Do you guys lead or c/r in these spots? #1 (permalink)  
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Both hands are pretty much the same thing. If you need more info then please tell me what your decision depends on. Thanks.


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($201.25)
CO ($334.18)
BTN ($235.60)
Hero ($195.50)
BB ($284.65)
[CO posted $3]

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB
UTG calls $2, CO raises to $4, BTN calls $4, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2, UTG calls $2

Flop: ($23, 5 players)
Hero ($191.5)?


$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($216.55)
CO ($100.00)
BTN ($322.81)
Hero ($194.00)
BB ($430.95)
[CO posted $2]

Pre-flop: ($5, 5 players) Hero is SB
UTG raises to $10, CO calls $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($32, 3 players)
Hero ($184)?
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Old 11-27-2007, 05:35 PM     Post subject: Re: Do you guys lead or c/r in these spots? #2 (permalink)  
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I would lead the first hand since its 5 handed.

If your opponents are aggressive post flop on the second hand you can check raise, but leading is fine too. If you were heads up against an aggressive opponent then check raising might be a better option.
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 hand 1 - I think I lead here because so many players saw the flop. Its likely that everyone will "check to the raiser" and with so many players he will likely check behind as well. We don't want this flop to check through with all the draws.

hand 2 - I think a c/r is fine here. UTG was the original raiser, so he might want to bet and rep a very strong hand. The board is also very drawy so he might luck you up thinking you're raising a draw.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:19 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I am a recent advocate for the "95% of the time don't slow play" club. I basically only do it when I am playing an aggro tard, but then again, if you are playing that type of player, then why not just lead and letthem do something stupid like raise?
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Old 11-28-2007, 03:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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lead #1 check #2
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Old 11-28-2007, 07:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I definetely lead Hand #1 and I like a check on Hand #2 as a c/raise disguises our hand well.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:14 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Lead hand 1 super standard.

c/r hand two because even if the original raiser checks there's a good chance the CO will bet.
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:34 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 1st one seems like an auto-lead. I don't like CR a lot cuz after you CR ppl will have to fold too often on turn when they miss their draws.


2nd one seems like CR will rep a draw pretty often and get ppl to shove over top with like JJ QQ lots (obv initial raiser) so I'd mix it up depending on what I've been doing and what villain have been seen to do
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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 lol just read other replies

survey says...
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 11-29-2007, 12:53 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Ya cool thanks peoples, that what I thought but just wanted to check.
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