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Hornsta9
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04-05-2007, 02:10 PM
Post subject: Do you call or fold river bet?
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Straight
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Guy was 25/12/2.5 He has not been out of line but I have been 3-betting him a lot.
Do you call or fold?
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IowaSkinsFan
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Straight Flush
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Bet flop and bet turn and then the whole thing is much easier.
As played i prob call but im a fish.
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andy-akb
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I agree with Iowa here. Bet the flop and the turn, when you check flop and bet the turn, then check the river, a lot of opponents are going to think you are FOS. I call the river.
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Hornsta9
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Straight
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I know what your both saying. In fact I would normally just keep firing on this board but I have not been getting any action on my big pairs, except when they are dominated by bigger pairs.
So my thinking was to check flop, lead turn and river hoping villain would think I was FOS but when the Ace dropped I kind of froze and didn't know what to do as he played the hand like he had a draw/overs and the Ace could have easily hit him
Should I just stop playing like that and bet for value all the time?
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Ash256
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FOS?
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andy-akb
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4-of-a-Kind
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Originally Posted by Hornsta9
I know what your both saying. In fact I would normally just keep firing on this board but I have not been getting any action on my big pairs, except when they are dominated by bigger pairs.
So my thinking was to check flop, lead turn and river hoping villain would think I was FOS but when the Ace dropped I kind of froze and didn't know what to do as he played the hand like he had a draw/overs and the Ace could have easily hit him
Should I just stop playing like that and bet for value all the time?
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I think if you are going to play the hand like that, you need to call this bet; however, I still wouldnt suggest playing that way most of the time. By playing so passively with such a strong hand you are just giving up too much value. Sometimes you will get played back at and they will have a bigger pair, but the more you play the better feel you have for when you are beat.
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Originally Posted by Ash256
FOS?
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Full of shit.
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mcatdog
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Checking the flop is an obvious "look at me I'm being reely tricky lol" play. He won't fall for it unless he's stupid and this guy probably isn't the right type of opponent to do this against, anyway. On the river it probably doesn't matter that much whether you call or fold.
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Hornsta9
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Straight
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
I think if you are going to play the hand like that, you need to call this bet; however, I still wouldnt suggest playing that way most of the time. By playing so passively with such a strong hand you are just giving up too much value. Sometimes you will get played back at and they will have a bigger pair, but the more you play the better feel you have for when you are beat.
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I did call the bet and was shown AQo. Guess I picked the wrong time to be tricky and let the way previous hands had been played affect the way I played this hand.
I think this is actually a major leak of mine because if things are not going my way, overs never hit, small pairs don't hit sets, big pairs run into bigger pairs then I start to change the way I play. I either start playing too loose or run stupid tricky plays like this one that backfire.
I suppose the consensus is to play hands straight forward no matter what is happening, at this level anyway? At what point do you begin to start varying your play and becoming a bit more tricky?
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