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Old 07-19-2006, 08:59 PM     Post subject: A difficult Sequence #1 (permalink)  
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The villian for both these hands is a 400NL regular. We have an interesting preflop relationship in that we are continuously raising, reraising and even 3betting each other with less then premiums. At least I presume he does it with less because he does it so often. We are both aggressive players post flop.

These hands happened about 5 hands apart. The QQ one first. My question is, is the action in the first hand a reason to call or to fold in the second hand?

Also sorry but the hand converter is messing this up.


***** Hand History for Game 4760915685 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 19, 08:40:32 ET 2006
Table Table 107251 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: MiAMiMoVeR ( $396.21 )
Seat 3: Obsessus ( $400 )
Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $546.50 )
Seat 2: Rednahtun ( $428 )
Seat 5: dglenn59 ( $297.42 )
dglenn59 posts small blind [$2].
MiAMiMoVeR posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lolYouFoldEZ [ Qh Qs ]
Rednahtun folds.
Obsessus raises [$16].
lolYouFoldEZ raises [$50].
dglenn59 folds.
MiAMiMoVeR folds.
Obsessus calls [$34].
Pot: $100
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6c, 9d, 8s ]
Obsessus checks.
lolYouFoldEZ bets [$75].
Obsessus raises [$150].
lolYouFoldEZ calls [$75].
Pot: $300
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
Obsessus is all-In [$200]
lolYouFoldEZ calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
Obsessus shows [ 5c, 6h ] a pair of sixes.
lolYouFoldEZ shows [ Qh, Qs ] a pair of queens.
lolYouFoldEZ wins $804 from the main pot with a pair of queens.



***** Hand History for Game 4760923475 *****
$400 NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, July 19, 08:44:17 ET 2006
Table Table 107251 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: MiAMiMoVeR ( $414.21 )
Seat 3: Obsessus ( $400 )
Seat 4: lolYouFoldEZ ( $944.50 )
Seat 2: Rednahtun ( $505 )
Seat 5: dglenn59 ( $197.82 )
Seat 6: chipbleader_ ( $400 )
dglenn59 posts small blind [$2].
chipbleader_ posts big blind [$4].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to lolYouFoldEZ [ Ah Kd ]
MiAMiMoVeR folds.
Rednahtun folds.
Obsessus raises [$16].
lolYouFoldEZ raises [$50].
dglenn59 folds.
chipbleader_ folds.
Obsessus calls [$34].
Pot: $100
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5s, Kc, Qs ]
Obsessus checks.
lolYouFoldEZ bets [$70].
Obsessus is all-In [$350]
lolYouFoldEZ ???

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Old 07-19-2006, 09:04 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I think I four-bet him preflop here since AK is the best hand like 98% of the time against somebody like him. As played, I'm folding to the c/r ai here. He is really showing huge strength. If the board was K72 I'd instacall, but this board is pretty scary for TPTK.
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Old 07-19-2006, 09:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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gotta call
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:25 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd call this pretty quickly. I'm assuming you have been 3-betting him light pf, right? Or at least he thinks that?
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:45 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Fold. He expects you to have hit this flop and the first hand makes it very likely for him to fastplay QQ/KK/KQ/AA.
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Old 07-20-2006, 07:52 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I think I four-bet him preflop here since AK is the best hand like 98% of the time against somebody like him.
How are you gonna do that when he calls?
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Fold. He expects you to have hit this flop and the first hand makes it very likely for him to fastplay QQ/KK/KQ/AA.
This is my reasoning aswell.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:39 AM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd call this pretty quickly. I'm assuming you have been 3-betting him light pf, right? Or at least he thinks that?
Ya, he would think think that I am more aggro pf then my cards should allow.

Also keep in mind that he wasn't tilted by the first hand. He reloaded straight away and we had a little chat about the hand.
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Old 07-20-2006, 10:52 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Fold, his range is probably a mixture of AK, pair+draw and sets to which you are behind.
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well he obviously knows you are capable of calling w/ an overpair or tp based on the first hand...and if he is not on tilt i think you are losing here more often than not.
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