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metman04
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12-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Post subject: Did I play this too aggressively?
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Villain is known to be very aggressive calling me down in a lot of pots and bluffing somewhat often...Should i have maybe checked the river to see if he would try to bluff at it or maybe only bet 20 or so?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Villain ($100)
Hero (SB) ($111.30)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 , 8
Villain raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, Villain calls $3.50
Flop: ($10) 2 , 8 , 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Villain calls $6
Turn: ($22) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $15, Villain calls $15
River: ($52) K (2 players)
Hero bets $40, 1 fold
Total pot: $52 | Rake: $0.50
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
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I like inducing by checking on river. Turn and river scare cards will most likely scare villain away from a value bet.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Luke999
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Straight
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Location: England
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Bet small and hope he spazzes out or calls with trash.
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Toadstool
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Flush
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Originally Posted by Luke999
Bet small and hope he spazzes out or calls with trash.
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What do you mean by "spazzes out" ?
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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fine, just realize you can barrel this dude on scare cards in the future
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griffey24
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Originally Posted by bigred
I like inducing by checking on river. Turn and river scare cards will most likely scare villain away from a value bet.
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Villain rarely has air here, and almost always has some piece that he'll rarely bet on this river if checked to. I definitely think betting has more value than checking in this particular spot.
wat hands are we hoping will bet? If flop had a FD I'd be a little bit more inclined to check, but most strong draws I'd expect a raise on an earlier street anyhow.
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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i dislike our bet sizing on all streets pretty much.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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Luke999
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Straight
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Originally Posted by Toadstool
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Originally Posted by Luke999
Bet small and hope he spazzes out or calls with trash.
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What do you mean by "spazzes out" ?
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Starts throwing his arms and legs all over the place while his head spins around and he drools at the mouth like "omg what a tiny pathetic gay bet lets raise this punk"
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
i dislike our bet sizing on all streets pretty much.
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explain cuz flop+turn are like exactly what I'd use
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Luke999
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Straight
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
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Originally Posted by Da GOAT
i dislike our bet sizing on all streets pretty much.
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explain cuz flop+turn are like exactly what I'd use
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I personally would bet $8 on flop then $22 on turn.
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bigspenda73
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actually I don't hate jamming river for balance, kinda coo-coo but whatevs
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IowaSkinsFan
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8, 20, 56.
Yes you bet all streets.
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bigred
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Originally Posted by griffey24
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Originally Posted by bigred
I like inducing by checking on river. Turn and river scare cards will most likely scare villain away from a value bet.
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Villain rarely has air here, and almost always has some piece that he'll rarely bet on this river if checked to. I definitely think betting has more value than checking in this particular spot.
wat hands are we hoping will bet? If flop had a FD I'd be a little bit more inclined to check, but most strong draws I'd expect a raise on an earlier street anyhow.
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I will bet a lot when checked to with these cards. I like position and scare cards especially if op two barrels a lot which happens frequently in HU. Maybe it's a leak.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Da GOAT
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Straight Flush
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id never jam river here tho.
opp has been calling us down alot so let him pay.
8, 18, 4/5ths
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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pollo1902
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hi i am new
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BadAssOutlaw
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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I think you played it great, I don't think you could have gotten much more out of it.. obviously he had a strong hand and committed himself to chasing something and he missed. you played it well in my opinion
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djmike24
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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as usual when u play ur best you got some money of it, even sometimes turn and river crash everything
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2ndline.4thstreet
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I like betting small on the river. He'll either call you or raise. Either way its more money than him folding.
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Shouldn't our cbets be smaller in 3b pots? I don't like betting 8 into 10. I'd rather bet 7, 18, 50
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poker3player333
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Join Date: Jun 2008
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Originally Posted by bigred
I like inducing by checking on river. Turn and river scare cards will most likely scare villain away from a value bet.
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I agree. Its hard to check with all that adrenaline. However, i feel if you check here there is a good chance he will push in some money, and a raise could induce a call or a fold, but still you can get more money. Nice hand though.
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v3nom85
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hi , if i was playing this hand ,i'd bet maxim half of the pot , so that he could call or raise.
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daniell20
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ban!
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boos1122
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Join Date: Mar 2009
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You play it right. Only the last move was to much. You had to raise something like 25 40 is to much when you first raise 6and 15. Or you had to raise earlier much. Maybe he had changes and he calls. But dont want to much if you have good good. Be happy with what you can got
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javierloco09
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I also like the way you play that got a good hand link on the flop and you know that you have an aggressive keep betting until the river with what we achieved a very good profit
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Originally Posted by iopq
Shouldn't our cbets be smaller in 3b pots? I don't like betting 8 into 10. I'd rather bet 7, 18, 50
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no, because this flop texture is such that he'll float us with pretty much anything so I like 8 on the flop and same sizing on all streets
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Proviper
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Join Date: May 2009
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This hand was well played.. If i was %100 sure i was good on the river i would of bet about $23 to make it seem like im bullshi**** to get him to call and me make another $23 or him to reraise and act like he has me beat. The river bet i think was to large and proved you had a hand
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b1eedb1ack
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It seems pretty standard. No matter the bet I'm not sure he gives you a call/bet here. I'm thinking you got just about all that you were going to get from him. He obviously had nothing & therefore your betting dictated that he likely wouldn't be able to bluff you off. Not much argument here, hand appears over no matter the bet.
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Proviper
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Join Date: May 2009
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Yeah he most likley missed his straight that he was drawing for or had a low pair.. Only way you could of got more out of him here is if you had checked the river and he had thought he could bluff you out of it.. But i dont think he would of bet the river anyways because you were betting quite strong on the turn
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