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Old 07-19-2005, 03:38 PM     Post subject: Did I overplay JJ? #1 (permalink)  
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I'd just sat down at the table and raised the last 4 hands or so because I was actually getting good starting hands. The last hand a shortstacked player reraised me for an extra $9 PF for half his stack so I folded out. Very next hand JJ. The turn brought a flush draw and I called $10 into a $50 pot and i discounted implied odds since i figured there'd be none.


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Texas Hold'em $1-$1 NL (real money), #1,086,317,043
Table St Laurent, 19 Jul 2005 11:28 AM ET
Seat 4: Pedorsky ($42.25 in chips)
Seat 5: the_moon123 ($116.50 in chips)
Seat 6: SlappinYaUp ($95.50 in chips)
Seat 9: th4nh ($18.50 in chips)
Seat 10: Razz71 ($95 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
the_moon123 posts blind ($0.50), SlappinYaUp posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
th4nh calls $1, Razz71 bets $3, Pedorsky folds, the_moon123 calls $2.50, SlappinYaUp bets $7, th4nh folds, Razz71 calls $5, the_moon123 calls $5.

FLOP [board cards 2H,3H,QD ]
the_moon123 checks, SlappinYaUp bets $15, Razz71 calls $15, the_moon123 folds.

TURN [board cards 2H,3H,QD,10H ]
SlappinYaUp checks, Razz71 bets $10, SlappinYaUp calls $10.

RIVER [board cards 2H,3H,QD,10H,10D ]
SlappinYaUp checks, Razz71 bets $15, SlappinYaUp folds.

SHOWDOWN
Razz71 wins $88.
SUMMARY
Dealer: Pedorsky
Pot: $90, (including rake: $2)
Pedorsky, loses $0
the_moon123, loses $8
SlappinYaUp, loses $33
th4nh, loses $1
Razz71, bets $48, collects $88, net $40
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Old 07-19-2005, 05:40 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Here's the problems I see with this hand (and I've fallen into the same trap myself).

You are reraising JJ with 3 behind you and OOP and get two callers.
I think given you are OOP, I would just call there an reevaluate on the
flop. You are likely up against AK or AQ. Maybe even QQ.

The flop looks ok for you but you are out of position. Why make a pot sized bet there? Why not 1/2 the pot? I would try to limit the size of the bets here for a chance at a cheap showdown. Had you smooth-called PFR, you could have bet $5 here to get information on your villain. But because the pot is so big you need to bet a larger amount or risk getting run over. If the villain, raises your $5 bet you can get out right there, knowing you are beat.

You check on the turn and he bets with the flush draw. So he has AQ. But he may have the Ah or the Qh so this is a fold for me. I don't want to be drawing dead to a flush.
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