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Did I misplay this, or is it just unfortunate? or both?
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dalecooper
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06-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Post subject: Did I misplay this, or is it just unfortunate? or both?
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4-of-a-Kind
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25 NL. I raised to 1.00 UTG with 99, suits unimportant. Folded around to the BB, who re-raised to 1.75. This player was tight and somewhat passive so I immediately put him on AK or JJ+. I called and figured a set would be highly desirable.
The flop was Q9x rainbow. Gorgeous. The pot was around $4 and he led for $2. I don't frequently slowplay sets, but sometimes in position against a tighter player I will. So here I smooth-called.
The turn was an ace. Now he led... for $1? On a $8 pot? Suspicious as hell, right? I stopped to think about it. My planned line had been smooth call flop, raise on the turn, raise or value bet the river - the traditional "I have a set" line for 25 NL, in other words. Now I wasn't sure I wanted to raise. This bet seemed to scream one of two things: "I have a monster," or "I hate this board and want a cheap showdown." Considering he 1/2 potted the flop it seemed like the ace must have helped him, if he had a monster. If that was the case I could only make him for AA or *maybe* AQ. If it was a blocking bet, I put him on KK or JJ. Clearly I was way ahead of both of those and any raise here would get a fold, but he might bet again on the river or call a modest bet if I just called here. I was way behind AA so a cheap showdown would be great if I really thought he had that. If by some outside chance he had AQ though, I should raise to maximize value. The only thing I couldn't figure was if he would make that stupid re-min-raise pre-flop, OOP, with AQ.
This all was a lot to think about on Party's too-quick timers so I ended up just calling.
The river was a horrible ace for a final board of Q9xAA. He led for $5 (pot was $10), and I just called for the third time on a hand where I flopped middle set. And to be honest, I considered a fold (although not for too long). By that point I thought it was 75% likely that he had AQ or AA.
Horribly botched? I know there's a lot of non-standard stuff in here, but I thought his line was giving a lot of information away. What I'm not sure about is if I acted correctly given the information.
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andr3w321
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I've found that when I get minraised preflop like that by someone, especially from the blinds, its almost always AA or KK. I probably play it the same, or raise up to like $5 on the flop with the intention of pushing turn. I'm guessing you called and he showed quads on the river.
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aislephive
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I'd raise the turn, and at least call river. If you fold poker is not the game for you.
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dalecooper
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No, I did indeed call. I was mainly wondering about the flop and turn. I don't think I can fold for 1/2 pot on the river, even though I was feeling sick as I called. I've been playing long enough that even though these were low stakes and this was not a huge pot with a lot of action, I still felt like I was probably behind and it was painful to call with a losing expectation.
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zenbitz
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I think you want to raise the turn for metagame reasons. No, seriously.
By flat calling his ridiculosly small bet, you are kind of letting him set the tempo. With a big hand (3rd set on a AQ9X board), you then forfeit your right to bluff raise a tiny turn or flop bet in the future.
Of course, it could (always) be an elaborate trap to get you to raise into AA or QQ.
In a vacuume, I think you played it fine because it's quite possible he has an even bigger hand, and not getting stacked after flopping a dominated set is quite a coup.
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