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Old 06-03-2008, 04:31 AM     Post subject: did i get the info i needed on the turn? #1 (permalink)  
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utg just sat down... no reads.



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Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.10.

Flop: ($3.05) J, 7, A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.35, UTG calls $2.35.

Turn: ($7.75) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.95, UTG calls $5.95.

River: ($19.65) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $14.25 (All-In), Hero ???
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Old 06-03-2008, 05:36 AM #2 (permalink)  
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BAAH!

I call expect to see better sometimes and worse sometimes. I hate folding vs unknowns to later find out they are complete maniacs but this is a pretty tough spot.

I think checking turn is standard
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:04 AM #3 (permalink)  
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You played it well now call
 
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:34 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I don't think you can fold vs. an unknown, so call. Pot odds are very good - he only has to be bluffing or over-valuing a worse hand one time in about 3.4 for this to be profitable. Your hand is strong (only T8 or a flush beats you) so I would call and pray.
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Old 06-03-2008, 02:49 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I think checking turn is standard
No way. I never check this turn vs an unknown unless I want to give up a free river spade. Charge his pair+FD he just picked up. River is a call vs. an unknown. Also the line seems a little weird.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:26 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think checking turn is standard
No way. I never check this turn vs an unknown unless I want to give up a free river spade. Charge his pair+FD he just picked up. River is a call vs. an unknown. Also the line seems a little weird.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:15 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd call and expect to see a pair and flush draw a lot. I know 25NL players don't turn pairs into a bluff very often, but this is a spot where they do because they know they can't check-call a shove and they don't want to fold because they're pissed off that they didn't get there, so they just shove. I've seen this a lot. Of course he has a flush sometimes too.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:00 PM #8 (permalink)  
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this is the flush 80% or more of the time at 25NL. I would fold. You played it right but i'd fold the river unless his image is very loose/bluffish

at 100nl and up you have odds to call
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:10 PM #9 (permalink)  
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He's not calling the turn bet and donk shoving this without the Flush. You have shown no weakness at all. Why drop 50BB+ jsut to find out what we already know. You played it fine. It's the exact same line you would run with the nut flush draw I would hope, so expect to get paid tons later if he is bluffing here.


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Old 06-03-2008, 09:20 PM #10 (permalink)  
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I dunno how you guys fold this. He could easily be playing a lower set / 2pr like this. And given his UTG limp/call, it looks more like a set badly slowplayed than anything else IMO.

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Old 06-03-2008, 09:50 PM #11 (permalink)  
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somehow i didn't catch we had top set. calling is fine. I don't know why he would play anything but a flush like this though. Bet more on each st.

by betting more each st. the river is trivial even if he has the flush
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Old 06-04-2008, 12:41 AM #12 (permalink)  
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I honestly like folding. This is a monster line from these guys.

Betting the turn and being willing to get it in like you did is good.


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