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Old 01-25-2007, 04:06 PM     Post subject: defending blind without 3betting pre #1 (permalink)  
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ShipIt is a multitabling positionally aware tag (recently raised 2 limpers with K5s).
I had been reraising quite a bit at this table, and think I'm seen as a fairly aggro tag, but haven't played a pot this big yet after around 100 hands.
I was trying to rep T9, 22, possibly 99/TT, and get folds from pairs under T, and any OESD.

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Hand #37041504-33321 at Oshawa (No Limit Hold'em)
Started at 25/Jan/07 02:25:02

-ShipIt- is at seat 0 with $857.25.
Hero is at seat 1 with $235.65.
zhertva_56 is at seat 2 with $179.05.
fish8888 is at seat 3 with $404.70.
JohnyCashGame is at seat 4 with $373.05.
dorinvandy is at seat 5 with $213.
The button is at seat 0.

Hero posts the small blind of $1.
zhertva_56 posts the big blind of $2.

-ShipIt-: -- --
Hero: :Kh: :Jc:
zhertva_56: -- --
fish8888: -- --
JohnyCashGame: -- --
dorinvandy: -- --

Pre-flop:

fish8888 folds. JohnyCashGame folds. dorinvandy
folds. -ShipIt- raises to $7. Hero calls.
zhertva_56 folds.

Flop (:Td: ): pot=16

Hero checks. -ShipIt- bets $12. Hero
raises to $38. -ShipIt- calls.

Turn (): pot=92

Hero bets $65. (leaves close to 1/2 pot in stacks)
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:35 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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i like calling flop and leading turn a lot more than this line, not sure i can give a reason why except that I think your line is uber suspicious and it would just confuse me if i were villain. and usually when people are confused they call off all their chips
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:26 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I like it as a bluff. I don't mind the turn bet as it is the natural follow through after a flop CR. I could put you on T9 or 22 here. Your turn bet puts him to a tough decision for his stack. If villain calls I guess he's willing to go down with the ship. The ships looks like an overpair or better.
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:33 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I tried this out because I noticed someone else do it to me, and it was at least pesky. at a point I called the flop with a medium-underpair only to fold to his turn lead.

but ya not sure if it's worth it. I want to work in more alternatives than just 3betting pre and cbetting, and like ravageur's suggestion, or an oop float, those could also rep more hands than monsters.

so iowa, you would fold pre? seems weak considering he raises with any K.
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Old 01-25-2007, 07:47 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 A thinking villain will put you on QJ very often here if you're taggy.

Rav's line can be cool but I'd rather do it with a hand that has less stacking potential (if a Q falls we can get villain's stack if he has a big one) like 2nd pair to a villain who frequently c-bets.

I will rarely flat call preflop since playing good players in medium-sized pots OOP sucks so much. At least in a reraised pot your c-bet has fold equity and your range is slightly stronger.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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