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Old 09-20-2005, 12:27 PM     Post subject: Dealing with fishy minbets #1 (permalink)  
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I play a casual live game that usually never gets more then 4-5 handed and one player in particular is becomming a nusance (largely due to the fact that he has a personality that would put the Dhali Lama on tilt....).
The guy's play is very bizzar. He'll fold on the button 3 handed and other times call huge raises out of position with stuff like 93off. He basically never raises pre flop then will min bet every street. He could just as likely be doing it on a missed 27 or a flopped boat. Safe rivers are hard to find as that 3 of the 4th suit might have completed his 2 pair draw. He is easilly beatable in the long run through playing better hands but i'm wondering if there is a good way to just shut down his minbets and proffit faster from him. thanks
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Yes. Raise his min bet when you have a hand.
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Old 09-20-2005, 05:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Why do you wanna stop drawing cheaply?
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Old 09-21-2005, 05:22 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Is he one of those asshole fish that min bets but calls huge raises? If so, you have a great guy to profit off of, you just have to be patient. You don't get great hands that often, and even less often against a specific player so don't force anything.

If he folds his pussyass bets to large raises then you have another option right there.

If you can't get a read on whether he's min-betting with air or the nuts, then play a safer game and simply wait till you have the hand and raise his ass.

Like the above poster said, draw cheaply. Does he fold when you draw cheap, hit that flush and raise? If so, rep the flush draw every time there's two to a suit. I doubt he is that aware, but its just something to think about.
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Old 09-21-2005, 09:41 PM #5 (permalink)  
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thanks for the replies. I'll have to work on anti tild meditation then just wait him out.
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Old 09-21-2005, 10:52 PM #6 (permalink)  
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These are the easiest players to beat, but the most frustrating to lose to. Just bet modest amounts all the time when you are ahead. The idea of betting for value was never more important than when playing against this kind of player. Bet 1/2 the pot a lot - enough that he's getting poor pot odds for what are probably crappy draws. Don't spend a lot of effort trying to bully him, bait him, sucker him in, or bluff him out. Just bet when you're ahead and fold when you're behind & there are no more cards coming (this is probably any time he comes alive with a big river bet). Think of it this way: when you're drawing he's almost always making it cheap for you, and when you're ahead your only job is to make him pay to play. In the long run, and even the not-very-long run, you should demolish this creampuff easily.

I actually play with someone (a girl) who is just like this. Aggravatingly unpredictable, she seems to assign random values to hands, has no concept of position, and bets small amounts with a wide range of hands after the flop. She'll call raises with horrible cards if she's in the mood, and worse, will go through stretches of boredom where she starts raising before the flop over and over again with any two cards. All I do is play my own cards and don't even try to follow her anti-logic. I keep betting reasonable amounts, and she keeps paying me off. Usually 1/3 of my chips in a tournament come from her, if I'm getting good cards at all.
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