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Lukie
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02-01-2006, 01:22 AM
Post subject: Crying call?
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Is hand one standard? Do you guys play it any differently? Just seeing how my line looks.
Hand two is just posted out of frustration. Ugh. I wanted to vomit.
PokerStars Game #3821768575: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/01/31 - 21:10:41 (ET)
Table 'Galt III' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Lukieplaya ($135.55 in chips)
Seat 2: larryab ($112.95 in chips)
Seat 3: givmescrill ($18 in chips)
Seat 4: mitchmoney ($99 in chips)
Seat 5: MRCASHINO ($67.85 in chips)
Seat 6: SPoOoDY ($59.20 in chips)
larryab: posts small blind $0.50
givmescrill: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [As Kh]
mitchmoney: folds
MRCASHINO: raises $1 to $2
SPoOoDY: calls $2
Lukieplaya: calls $2
larryab: folds
givmescrill: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah 4d 4h]
MRCASHINO: bets $1
SPoOoDY: calls $1
Lukieplaya: raises $6 to $7
MRCASHINO: calls $6
SPoOoDY: calls $6
*** TURN *** [Ah 4d 4h] [Js]
MRCASHINO: checks
SPoOoDY: checks
Lukieplaya: bets $15
MRCASHINO: calls $15
SPoOoDY: folds
*** RIVER *** [Ah 4d 4h Js] [Kc]
MRCASHINO: bets $43.85 and is all-in
Lukieplaya: calls $43.85
*** SHOW DOWN ***
What a donk. Enough said...
PokerStars Game #3821801483: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/01/31 - 21:13:16 (ET)
Table 'Circe IV' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: occssw ($115.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Olsie ($75.40 in chips)
Seat 3: BOOKSR ($12 in chips)
Seat 4: Dornie ($22.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Lukieplaya ($136.20 in chips)
Seat 6: mleonida ($23.60 in chips)
Olsie: posts small blind $0.50
BOOKSR: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Lukieplaya [Ah Ad]
Olsie said, "gf"
occssw said, "no kicker"
Dornie: folds
Lukieplaya: raises $3 to $4
Olsie said, "AQ"
mleonida: folds
occssw: calls $4
Olsie said, "no heart"
Olsie: folds
BOOKSR: folds
*** FLOP *** [4h 3s Jh]
Lukieplaya: bets $6
occssw said, "here either"
occssw: calls $6
*** TURN *** [4h 3s Jh] [9s]
Lukieplaya: bets $15
occssw: calls $15
*** RIVER *** [4h 3s Jh 9s] [5s]
Lukieplaya: checks
occssw: bets $20.70
Lukieplaya: calls $20.70
*** SHOW DOWN ***
occssw: shows [5d 5c] (three of a kind, Fives)
Lukieplaya: mucks hand
Lukieplaya said, "wow"
occssw collected $89.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $92.90 | Rake $3
Board [4h 3s Jh 9s 5s]
Seat 1: occssw (button) showed [5d 5c] and won ($89.90) with three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: Olsie (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: BOOKSR (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Dornie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Lukieplaya mucked [Ah Ad]
Seat 6: mleonida folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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bdawg56kg
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Hand 1 I'm definitely reraising preflop. Doesn't need to be huge. Something like $8 would work well. As played I think I like checking behind on the turn. And I think you need a good read to call that river push.
Hand 2 is goot. What did you put villian on? I think I'm value-betting here almost everytime. Something like 1/2 should be good. If you get raised then you can toss your hand easily. (I can't believe he called you down w/55 LOL)
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r8ed
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Busted flush in hand 1? Played fine - easy river call.
Hand 2, I think you need to bet higher on each street because suits and connectors. I guess he wasn't folding regardless though.
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Miffed22001
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hand1 nice
hand 2.
check raise?
especially if opp is aggro or a bit dumb. I might push or really badly overbet the turn if i think opp has anypart of it and thinks im on bluff.
We all hate that river
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Lukie
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hand 1: i'm ahead of everything on the flop except the 1 combination of AA, the 1 combination of 44, and some stupid 4x hand. Normally I slow down with TPTK when 2 players call a flop bet, but in this instance i'm almost always best so I fired again on the turn. Don't want someone rivering that flush.
I probably should reraise this preflop 6-max though with only a min-raise in front. (sorry, random)
River was a toughie. I had been showing strength on the flop and turn, so this bet was quite a surprise. First reaction was some random 4 or a busted flush draw, but after I went through his range, I decided that this call was +EV. AA (even 44) would make sense, but very unlikely mathematically. I'm good here 1 outta 3 times I'd like to believe. Villain flipped AA.
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Hand 2 is goot. What did you put villian on? I think I'm value-betting here almost everytime. Something like 1/2 should be good. If you get raised then you can toss your hand easily. (I can't believe he called you down w/55 LOL)
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Based on the little I had seen, villain was splashing around in a lot of pots. He liked to call. I was thinking flush draw which would give him a chance to bluff at the pot, but I'm not winning another bet on the end if I fire a third barrell if thats the case. He could also be slowplaying something like a set waiting to river-screw me here, and by checking I avoid facing a large 2-bet on this river. Of course, he could have something stupid like QJ where he almost invariably checks behind and I'd be kicking myself...
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bdawg56kg
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Originally Posted by Lukie
Based on the little I had seen, villain was splashing around in a lot of pots. He liked to call. I was thinking flush draw which would give him a chance to bluff at the pot, but I'm not winning another bet on the end if I fire a third barrell if thats the case. He could also be slowplaying something like a set waiting to river-screw me here, and by checking I avoid facing a large 2-bet on this river. Of course, he could have something stupid like QJ where he almost invariably checks behind and I'd be kicking myself...
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Yeah, I think your thought process is good. I guess I was just being a little results oriented. I saw him call you down with 55 and assumed he was a typical calling station 6-max fish that has the "he must have AK" syndrome. But I like the river check to induce a bluff.
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