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Old 10-27-2007, 11:07 PM     Post subject: Crazy overbet 2/4 #1 (permalink)  
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 opp is 20/11 straightforward regular.

POKERSTARS GAME #12882175818: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/10/27 - 16:47:23 (ET)
Table 'Guangdong' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: 5902838181 ($498 in chips)
Seat 2: heybude ($686.50 in chips)
Seat 3: pearnip ($331.50 in chips)
Seat 4: inbc73662 ($77.20 in chips)
Seat 5: jensthecook ($211.80 in chips)
Seat 6: xavsit ($380.85 in chips)
pearnip: posts small blind $2
inbc73662: posts big blind $4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heybude [Ts Ad]
jensthecook: calls $4
xavsit: folds
5902838181: raises $12 to $16
heybude: raises $36 to $52
pearnip: folds
inbc73662: folds
jensthecook: folds
5902838181: calls $36
*** FLOP *** [Kc Js 7h]
5902838181: checks
heybude: checks
*** TURN *** [Kc Js 7h] [9d]
5902838181: bets $52
heybude: calls $52
*** RIVER *** [Kc Js 7h 9d] [Tc]
5902838181: checks
heybude: bets $582.50 and is all-in
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Old 10-27-2007, 11:23 PM #2 (permalink)  
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at first i was like wtf... but now after thinking about it i like it.
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Old 10-28-2007, 12:09 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 I think its good in isolation, given that villain can fold.

I'd imagine you're trying to rep AQ here, and hoping that even KQ, might fold here?

Though I'm more wondering about the flop and turn. Why not bet the flop? This must be a good flop for you here, where a lot of better hands will fold.

And as for the turn call, what do you do on a blank river (<T)?
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:47 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 He's 20/11, i was threebetting just to isolate/take his raise. It was a bad threebet IMO, but lets just try to ignore that for now.

It's not as much that I can rep AQ or KQ but more so that he rarely, if ever has a Q. AND given his turn bet sizing I'm thinking he likely has AK or AA.

Idk if he's scared money or not, obviously if I had to guess id say he was but mostly because most nit regs are scared money.
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:49 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 What i do on a blank river is i check. It's a half pot bet and i have a double gut, he's not going to fold to a potsize bet if i hit a straight so implied is there.
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:08 AM #6 (permalink)  
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this is very bad
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Old 10-28-2007, 06:30 AM #7 (permalink)  
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this is very bad
Yeah i just realized this is a dumb post because given the information i gave your right and if i just tell you every read i have on the hand whats the point of posting it because it makes it obviously pretty good.
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:51 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 why;d you shove lololol
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Old 10-28-2007, 07:55 AM #9 (permalink)  
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this seems fine ?? it looks like you have QQ and it doesnt look like he should have Qx
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Old 10-28-2007, 03:43 PM #10 (permalink)  
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i mean i guess if hes not smart enough to c/r riv with a queen or 8 this is a lot better
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 I think this is ok, only because if we were villain in this spot and we had KQ, and we were facing an overbet push I'd imagine most ppl would be saying fold still?

Given the fact that we're calling for a split likely and he probably has AQ? no?

what should villain do with a bare Q here?... call the overbet?
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When does hero with AQ not c-bet here?
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i mean i guess if hes not smart enough to c/r riv with a queen or 8 this is a lot better
probably 15% of regs are capable of checking straight here
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 Omg people why would anyone in their right mind cbet AQ here versus a tight reg? Same with AT. Yeah I mean pretty much given timing and reads i felt like he rarely has a Q and he's going to put me on a Q 100% of the time.
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when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Omg people why would anyone in their right mind cbet AQ here versus a tight reg? Same with AT. Yeah I mean pretty much given timing and reads i felt like he rarely has a Q and he's going to put me on a Q 100% of the time.
I agree he probably doesn't have a straight i just think the shove is too excessive. Also i was drunk when i made that post last night... lol.

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