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shakesss
Old 03-30-2010, 04:33 PM     Post subject: Couple of tricky spots. #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 19/5. 113 hands. WTSD-18, W$SD-25. Small sample. My read was that he was just a really tight fish. No clue what his range is here. The few hands he raised were from EP, none from LP.

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($56.12)
Hero (SB) ($51.50)
BB ($41.77)
UTG ($48.50)
MP ($71.50)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q
UTG bets $1, 2 folds, Hero raises $3.25, 1 fold, UTG calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 6, 9, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, UTG calls $4.50

Turn: ($16.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($32.50) K (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $17, Hero ??


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Villain is a tight reg. 18/12/3.6 AF. Fold to 3b 53%. Open CO 15%. Flop cb 75, Turn Cb 23, River CB 100. 1.4k Hands. He probably views me as bluffy and aggro. Recently i called a three bet of his otb vs his small blind 3b with T9c. Flatted a half pot bet on AhJc8h.. shoved turn when checked to on 3c, he called with AK and held.

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Button ($44.60)
SB ($87.33)
Hero (BB) ($52.60)
UTG ($57.45)
MP ($14.19)
CO ($50.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, Q
2 folds, CO bets $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 5, A, 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($7.75) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($15.75) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $11, Hero ???
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:28 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I b/f turn in #1, he has a 7 like never and JJ a lot. As played I quickly fold river.

Prob c/f river in #2 when he likes to bluff catch with TPish hands.
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Old 03-30-2010, 05:45 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I b/f turn in #1, he has a 7 like never and JJ a lot. As played I quickly fold river.

Prob c/f river in #2 when he likes to bluff catch with TPish hands.
Agree b/f turn hand 1.

Disagree c/f river hand 2 for the reasons you gave. Firstly we don't know if the AK hand was a bluff catch or a nitroll he wasn't sure to bet but wasn't gonna fold. On this board with the heart draw I wouldn't expect him to check TPGK/TPWK back on the turn to bluff catch a river, missing value charging draws history says we may not want to bluff again vs him (he's not gonna c/b KK or QQ and fold to a river bet, is he?), and especially when he may even think he's valuebetting worse aces vs us/our image.

It's not a c/f, it's definitely not a c/r, so I think it's a call where we'll be good enough often enough.
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:01 PM #4 (permalink)  
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hand 1: i would have bet on turn, and river. Fold to any raise. As played, prolly fold river.

hand 2: opp doesent really rep anything else than an ace, so i'd call on river considering the Q kicker
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:42 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I agree that in hand 1 b/f turn is the best option. I guess i tried to get some value out of his A high hands that might bluff turn and river.

Hand 2 I was pretty torn because of the size of his bet when the flush card came in. Looks like a card that will help my range. I guess he could have a flush, sets or AK which would play the same. I think he expects me to call river quite often as well.
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Old 03-30-2010, 07:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I agree that in hand 1 b/f turn is the best option. I guess i tried to get some value out of his A high hands that might bluff turn and river.

Hand 2 I was pretty torn because of the size of his bet when the flush card came in. Looks like a card that will help my range. I guess he could have a flush, sets or AK which would play the same. I think he expects me to call river quite often as well.
on hand 2, you checked all streets. How does he expect you to call on river? he probably puts you on a flush draw. i would have bet from flop on, but played like this i'd call the river too. if he is on a flush draw, does your check/call and opp betting make sense on flop and turn? its definitely a bet on flop and turn from you. But as played, you can't fold on river, plus, it's a standard 3/4 pot sized bet he makes. i think he holds an ace here
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