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mxiu

04-02-2010, 01:22 AM Post subject: A couple of spots from last session

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Villain is running 19/17/1.1 7.5%3b over 150 hands, no history, notice stack sizes

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) ($151.85)
MP ($103.45)
CO ($244.70)
Button ($98.50)
SB ($100)
BB ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, K

Hero bets $4, 1 fold, CO raises to $11, 3 folds, Hero raises to $29, CO calls $18

Flop: ($59.50) 7

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $32, CO raises to $215.70 (All-In), Hero

Villain here is a nit named Smart.FAB running 15/12/2.3 5.1%3b, SB is a 71/14 fish. Notice the bet sizing from SB. Villain snap shoved fwiw

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($227.90)
CO ($125.95)
Button ($207.85)
SB ($37.25)
Hero (BB) ($103.65)
UTG ($158.70)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, A

1 fold, MP bets $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, SB calls $2.50, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($12) 9

, J

, 6

(4 players)
SB bets $13, Hero calls $13, MP calls $13, 1 fold

Turn: ($51) A

(3 players)
SB bets $21.25 (All-In), Hero calls $21.25, MP raises to $211.90 (All-In), Hero calls $66.40 (All-In)

River: ($247.55) 3

(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $247.55 | Rake: $3

Villain is running 29/20/1.5 with a 13.2%3b over 94 hands, what does everyone think about betsizing here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($15.85)
MP ($143.95)
Button ($20)
SB ($55.20)
Hero (BB) ($100)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, K

UTG bets $3, MP calls $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, UTG raises to $15.85 (All-In), MP calls $12.85, Hero calls $2.85

Flop: ($48.05) 9

, J

, 4

(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $16, MP calls $16

Turn: ($80.05) 8

(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $22, MP raises to $112.10 (All-In), Hero folds

River: ($124.05) 5

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $124.05 | Rake: $2

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Schiplt

04-02-2010, 04:15 AM

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1:no reason to fold, call
2:call
3:you butchered yourself then hung your self out to dry, give us something other than stats, and don't bet a third pot on the wettest flop ever, then when he calls bet a quarter pot and let him walk all over you. do some math but i have no idea what this guy is doing cause i dont know what his tendencies are.

here is my inspiration, ISF upset that he lost a dollar: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...806.html#28211

04-02-2010, 04:52 AM

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1) Not happy about it but you can't fold.

2) Same as hand 1

3) If you are going to bet this small, you can't fold when they shove. I would probably bet more like $26 on flop and shove turn.

Vi-Zer0Skill

04-02-2010, 04:54 AM

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1. he can show up with QQ or occasionally JJ
2. shove the turn; MP is getting 4.5:1 to call with a draw after you flat
3. bet the flop 30

mxiu

04-02-2010, 08:27 AM

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I just don't see how often villain is going to show up with QQ in hand 1. Granted, folding is super exploitable but it seemed like I was praying for a split pot more than anything.

In hand 3, do I really need a full bet in a dead side pot? Granted, it was a drawy board but I figured if I made a smaller bet, I could actually get away from the hand if the action/board got ugly. Not sure if I'm being results oriented here.

XTR1000

04-02-2010, 10:09 AM

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#1 It´s close but you really cant give him all the dead moneys

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

8,910 games 0.069 secs 129,130 games/sec

Board: 7h 7d 3h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.294% 28.29% 00.00% 2521 0.00 { KcKd }
Hand 1: 71.706% 71.71% 00.00% 6389 0.00 { AA, QcQh, AhKh, AhQh }

#2 Fold pre, then fold flop, then shove turn.

#3 Unless you´re confident that your sizing will make him autospazz very often Id much rather go 25/shove most turns.

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pocketfours

04-02-2010, 03:40 PM

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#1 fold

#2 What XTR said.

#3 I think c/f turn is better. Don't build a big sidepot when your hand is face up.

Ravageur

04-02-2010, 09:18 PM

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c/shove flop in hand 3 or bet bigger, that bet sizing is just about the worst possible.

hand 2, seems good

hand 1 i dunno....after seeing those stove results i guess you can fold but there's no way i'm ever folding that as it happens.

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Carroters

04-02-2010, 09:42 PM

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1. Umm why can't he have more flush draws than AhQh given we're a bit deep and the smallish 4 bet will make him think he has implied odds to mine vs an unknown with a likely strong range with shit like JhTh, QhJh etc. I'd have more of that in his range and call the flop. I also think a typical 100NL TAG can be bad enough to show up with JJ and QQ a fair amount. Think folding is giving villain too much credit for playing competently.

2. Don't mind this but I'd shove the turn and make sure he stack off with any of the draws/pair + draws in his range that he's b/cing and that the river doesn't make the board scarier so that he doesn't wana felt top pair on the river.

3. I'm not betting this turn, I think he has too many nut hands in his range now and isn'tcalling anymore with much stuff you beat given the side pot. I'd defo fold to the shove as played.

gabe

04-02-2010, 10:09 PM

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i would squeeze AJ 100% of the time there. its fine that the opener is a nit

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04-02-2010, 11:43 PM

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I would still squeeze hand 2. As played I'm folding to SmartFab's shove though he may play you differently than he does me but I doubt it.

griffey24

04-03-2010, 02:11 AM

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Hand 1 - I can't imagine not snap calling this ever.

Hand 2 - Like others have said, I'd probably squeeze this pre. I'd play it the same post, though I'd just ship the turn.

Hand 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravageur

bet bigger, that bet sizing is just about the worst possible.

I'd bet bigger on flop. As played, if I sized it like that, I think he can shove a lot of worse hands on the turn "protecting" against your potential backdoor draw.

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Dragon Slayer

04-03-2010, 03:47 AM

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Hand 1
Snap it off

Hand 2
Fold pre, but as played call and w/e

Hand 3
Def bet bigger. But Im prolly calling this as well.

XTR1000

04-03-2010, 10:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Carroters

pretty much my point for not folding. the range i gave was like worst case and if my math isnt way off our call should break even

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred

xtr stand for exotic tranny retards

yo

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